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  1. The Sox offered Miller 4/32. Miller mentions in this article that Sox made competitive offer. Miller is a big Union guy and he was clearly taking the most lucrative deal. https://www.google.com/amp/nesn.com/2015/03/andrew-miller-boston-red-sox-made-an-impressive-offer-in-free-agency/amp/?client=safari
  2. Looks like it worked.
  3. Exactly...Unless they trade Shaw & Sandoval some how, prior to spring training, they need to let it play out. If 3rd base is a sieve at the all star break, they can look at their options then.
  4. Theo Epstein said that no one should be in the same position for an organization for more than 10 years. He left Boston just shy of 10 years. He won't be in Chicago forever, either. Some of his best friends say that he has interest in politics. He'll do whatever he wants at this point. Ben Cherington left the Sox and decided to "teach" sports management at Ivy League Columbia U. He'll do whatever he wants moving forward as well. As Sox fans, we were lucky to have them both for as long as we did, as they are two guys who are very rarely not the "smartest guy in the room."
  5. I agree that they will absolutely need more rotation depth than they currently have, but I still think Buchholz gets moved, unless Pomeranz is okay with going to the pen.
  6. Not sure if I follow. You are agreeing that he has significant trade value, yet you say we are "stuck" with him? He doesn't have to be traded as part of a package for a better starter, and yes, you are obviously correct that Clay Buchholz & two utility players doesn't get you a better starter. Maybe he could be traded as part of a package for a Wade Davis type. Maybe they could acquire a solid prospect for him that they could flip or keep. There are other options. I just see him as a change of scenery trade candidate and with the lack of starting pitching available, this might be the perfect time. Just a gut feeling, but I don't think he'll be back.
  7. I don't want to see Buchholz in a Sox uniform next year, either, but they absolutely had to pick up that option. He has significant trade value. Some people have said that if he were a free agent this off season, he could've possibly received the best deal out there for a starter. I really do think they are going to move him this offseason, and it won't be difficult to do, when you consider all factors.
  8. That sounds about right. I think they'll shop Buchholz pretty heavily this winter, though. Not much out there for available starting pitching. He definitely has some value.
  9. Tito was a great manager for the Sox, but he was burnt out in the end, for several reasons. Managing 8 years in Boston is the equivalent of managing "80" years in a place like San Diego. That year off was probably just what he needed.
  10. I think it's one of the DHs in a landslide. The rumors are that the Sox won't go after Jansen, Chapman or Melancon and I don't think that there's a shot in hell that they are even involved with those guys. The Drew Storens and Boon Logan's of the world will be had at reasonable money and the upside is there. The Sox aren't going 4/65 on a reliever. Chapman and Jansen may get more. Turner is a gamer and would seem to have the perfect makeup for Boston, but they have too much invested at 3rd and Turner supposedly loves LA. No chance. The Sox will sign a DH. It's just a matter of who.
  11. The Sox definitely have what it takes to acquire Sale, but I don't think they'd give up both Bradley & Swihart for him. I know the majority of this board would do it in a heart beat, but I think the Sox value those guys more than the board does. Supposedly the Sox were unwilling to include Bradley in any deal for Sale when they had previous discussions. Their thinking has possibly changed since then, but my guess is not enough to include Swihart as well. Then again, if the White Sox are in "win now" mode, trading Sale makes no sense.
  12. Yup...The White Sox always come up when possible destinations for EE are mentioned. I also think that they'll look to compete before they become sellers. With a poor free agent class for starters, the price for one of those White Sox starters would probably be ridiculous anyway.
  13. You're right. Lester's agent didn't respond. The Sox shouldn't have been baffled, either, especially when you consider earlier that week, Max Scherzer turned down 160 and the immortal Homer Bailey signed for 105. Taking those two events into consideration, the Sox should've known that 4/70 was an insult. My guess is that Cherington and his staff did know. Lester would be still be in Boston if they opened with something slightly above the Bailey deal. 6/120 something easily gets it done
  14. Vic was signed because a right fielder who could play defense was a top priority that off season. Tori Hunter was plan A and Ortiz recruited him heavily, but ironically he said he wanted to go somewhere where he could win right away. Oops. When Ben said that the first thing he needed to do was "Change the culture of the clubhouse," after 2012, Ryan Dempster was supposedly recommended by "everyone." He wasn't just brought here to pitch, although he was pretty effective as a pitcher as well. Another top starter will be difficult to find this offseason and although the White Sox starters keep coming up, they haven't given any indication as to whether they will rebuild or try to compete yet. In my opinion, they have too much of a solid core not to try to win now.
  15. None of us have any idea who was responsible for what when it came to Sox decision making, except that you probably can't find anyone who doesn't think that Larry Lucchino was the one who came up with that ridiculous 4/70 initial offer to Lester. If you want to blame someone for Lester, start with Lucchino.
  16. It only gets "foggy" when you base your entire opinion on "statistics" only. David Ross hit .229 as a backup catcher for the Cubs this year, but I'm pretty certain that if you ask anyone in that Cubs organization, they would tell you that he is an invaluable part of that team. Jason Heyward spent one spring training with the guy and decided to pay for Ross to have his own suite on the road for all 82 games. Dempster had a similar affect on the Sox. You can ignore it all you want. He also actually pitched well for them. I'm not going to get into Peavy's "beyond the stats" value, because I know where it will end up. Sabermetrics are great, and they have a ton of value in evaluating on field performance, but until MLB starts trotting "robots" out onto the field every day, you can't base a player's value solely on "WAR," as you are clearly doing with a guy like Dempster.
  17. Being "against" a deal is a lot different than actually calling it a "mistake." Dempster wasn't a "mistake." Victorino wasn't a "mistake." Masterson was unquestionably brought in as part of the "Change the culture of the clubhouse" mantra, but that signing didn't work out. It was a one year deal, so it didn't exactly set the franchise back for a decade. I didn't mention the Masterson and Sandoval signings, because they can certainly be considered "mistakes." Part of the cost of doing business in baseball is realizing that you'll very rarely ever get "full return" on your investment in a player. Teams know this. Victorino took less than what Cleveland offered to come to Boston and the guy was without question one of the most valuable players on a World championship team. In my eyes, you can't call that signing a "mistake."
  18. You worded it to insinuate that Ramirez, Dempster & Victorino were all mistakes. As far as Dempster goes, Ben Cherington said after 2012 that the first thing he needed to do was "change the culture of the clubhouse." By all accounts, Ryan Dempster was a huuuuuge part of that. The guy also gave them 17 quality starts out of the 5 spot and the team went on to win the World Series. Calling his signing a "mistake" sounds crazy to me. When Clay Buchholz was asked the next season what the biggest difference was between the 2013 team and the 2014 team that was struggling, his answer was, "No Ryan Dempster." A player's value isn't all about "statistics." You can find several quotes where members of the Sox organization discussed just how important he was to that team. My guess is that Ben Cherington might even call Dempster a "crucial" signing for that team. I'm also sure they all felt "lucky" that he retired when they went from first to last without him around.
  19. Lol...I'm pretty sure Ben Cherington doesn't consider Victorino, Dempster & Ramirez "mistakes" as you do. I'm also pretty sure he'd make those 3 moves again in a nano-second. I also don't think Cherington was behind Pablo. Declining ticket sales, declining marketing revenue, declining merchandise sales all probably had a little something to do with bringing the lovable "Panda" to Boston.
  20. I agree that Wright is much more similar to Dickey than Wake. Let's just hope Farrell keeps him off the base paths next year.
  21. At worst, he should give them quite a few quality starts if he's healthy.
  22. Agreed, unless by some miracle, they move Sandoval, they'll go with in house options.
  23. I agree. There seems to be plenty of free agent "DH types," so they should have lots of options without worrying about giving anyone any type of long term deal. I think they'll put their own value on EE and see if it's anywhere close to where the market is, though.
  24. The Sox did go after Miller. Their best offer was 4/32. Not sure if they were offered an opportunity to outbid the Yankees' 4/36, but Miller made it clear that the money was going to be the deciding factor, as it was his first opportunity to cash in.
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