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I wasn’t surprised. Even in a lot of “salary dump” deals, the team trading the player away still pays the larger share. They take their savings where they can…
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Yes, because I’m theorizing that they are connected…
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I was just talking about saying $10mil from Sale and then spending an additional $18mill just to replace Sale…
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Ok. In hindsight, this deal has blown up in multiple ways. I had a good amount of faith in Crawford, Houck and Bello that to me, just adding an innings eater was enough to give this rotation a serious boost. So I liked this deal a lot more when I thought Giolito would pitch, Sale probably wouldn’t, and Grissom would step right in. I will say that despite his rocky start, Grissom appears to still be a favorite of Lou Merloni’s, not only as a player but as a person. And even if 2024 is a wasted year, he still might be worthwhile…
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That’s why I can’t call it was a salary dump. This deal increased spending slightly…
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Post 130, you clearly state you were on board because you liked that they acquired Grissom and it wasn’t a straight sales dump. And that’s fine. That’s how I felt about the deal. And almost everyone else, with very few notable exceptions. It seemed like a good plan,and a low risk plan, even if Giolito was taking steps backwards. But Murphy’s Law just ran amok on it…
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Yes it was all after the fact, which of course is true about his divorce stuff as well. Not like any of us predicted it. But Giolito pitched for two teams after July last year and then reached free agency. That’s a lot of medical exams in a short time. Health when the Sox signed him should have been well documented…
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I can understand sort of blowing past Price. If anything, the inclusion of Price dragged down Mookie. There was one big difference between Price and Sale before their respective trades - Price was actually pitching. In his 4 years prior to being dealt, Ptice through nearly 4 times as many innings as Sale did in a corresponding stretch. Both had similar seasons before the trade. But in his last 3 years after being dealt, Price only threw some 20 more IP than Sale has already given Atlanta. Trading Price didn’t come back to haunt them. (This cannot be said for the rest of that trade.) Sale was much less risky to deal. It just blew up. There’s a reason if you go back through this thread, very few people actually thought trading Sale was a bad idea at the time. Including you…
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Oh I just acknowledged the possibility, as did a few others. I never said anything was “most likely”, especially on a player who was examined by two teams in the second half of last season alone…
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I don’t know what they saw in Giolito, but the Angels and Guardians were not phased by his performance…
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A medical diagnosis!! We are all so glad you took time out of your busy schedule to examine Mr. Giolito…
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Did you feel this way when the Sox dealt Price? Not about Mookie, whom we all wanted. Just Price…
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6/30 Padres @ SOX 1:35PM ET
notin replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
I didn’t expect the next Ichiro, but I did expect a Japanese Brandon Nimmo. But he is still along way from that… -
6/30 Padres @ SOX 1:35PM ET
notin replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
I like Yoshida, but his approach in the states isn’t what I expected after seeing his stats in Japan. He’s a good hitter I expected more from. He’s a bad fielder. And it’s not hard to see why a lot of fans are frustrated with him… -
6/30 Padres @ SOX 1:35PM ET
notin replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
Neither Hamilton nor Valdez is much of a defender. Hamilton might be an acceptable 2b. Valdez is probably a LF or DH… -
Pretty sure a700 was referring to the Grest Reset Button trade in which the Sox unloaded AGon, Carl Crawford, Josh Beckett and Nick Punto’s contracts and got back what turned out to be nothing. The Sox actually did include money in that deal, but that’s besides the point. They spent their massive savings on a slew of short term free agents and won the World Series 14 months later…
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Probably some truth to it being that way on nearly every baseball forum on the internet…
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I get where you’re going, but I have my front Henry will allow another spending binge like he did in 2013 where the Sox signings included Napoli, Dempster, Victorino, S Drew, and Uehara…
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I’m still on board with this team. I expect good and bad stretches. I’ve even suggested my deadline but targets - Tyler Anderson (Angels RHSP) and Paul DeJong (White Sox shortstop). And some others have made theirs, and it will go on from there. Now the prospect thread has had some discussion about who the expendable prospects are, which is buy talk… But it only takes one person not enjoying them to start the sell discussions…
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So are you saying you’re being positive about this team now? And don’t want to read anything negative about them? If that’s the case, wow. Less predictable than the Chris Sale Resurgence…
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That’s actually the point. They’re saying this team isn’t fun to watch, and hopefully some new team in the future built with trading these players away will be more fun. Whether or not the team is fun to watch is up to the viewer. But if someone isn’t enjoying the team this year, what do you suggest they do?
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Actually the last two years, it looked like the options were buy, sell, hold, and oversell Eric Hosmer…
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Cora’s thoughts on this are irrelevant on this little web forum he’s never heard of and will never visit. Nothing we say will ever reach him, and certainly wouldn’t impact anything he did if he somehow caught wind of our existence. I assume you were talking about posters who discuss selling. If so, you do realize these folks have zero impact on what the Sox do, right? Sox fans have had negativity since long before the internet. And those negative types fall into two classes. 1. Those who complain and it ends there. And 2., those who complain and discuss how things could change to get better. In the grand scheme of running a team, neither type matters. Neither type even gets heard. But I would rather talk to the second type. But both types will ALWAYS exist, and we know this because they ALWAYS have…
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True, but as I said, I prefer the former. But as I said earlier, if any of you front office bashers have a line on where to get Sox office voodoo dolls, clue me in. I’m not opposed to Henry Bashing, and definitely not above it. It’s just secondary to talking team/player stuff like I mentioned earlier…
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Appropriately timed example, because according to Lou Merloni, this is essentially how the Padres got Bogaerts. Apparently he was not their prime target, but Trea Turner was. However, Turner’s wife is from Philadelphia, and after they offered him $400mill, Turner all but begged the Padres not to counter. The Padres took their unspent capital and then offered the bulk of it to Bogaerts. So, this does happen….
