notin

I'm shocked, too...

On other threads, we have fans insisting it's time to give the kids a shot because this season is over. But here we have a situation where a kid is getting some time and people want him sent down to the minors (who are not even having a season this year)..

Moreland has a career .673 OPS vs LHP. I've certainly seen worse from a LHH. Chavis career OPS vs LHP is .771. Marginally better, but it's .882 this year against LHP. His OPS since that first series is .852 on the season against all pitchers. Moreland is off to a great start, but Chavis is not holding this team back. The Sox pitching gave up 13 runs; you're not going to win many games if any when that happens...

And rebuilt them quickly Last place in 2012. WS Champs in 2013. Last place in 2014 and 2015. Then AL East titles in 2016 and 2017 followed by a WS title in 2018. 2019 was the first year since 2011 the Sox did not finish in either first or last in the AL East...

Well, Glasnow was looking like a reclamation prospect, and Archer was clearly declining, but he was also paid like a lesser starter anyway. I'm hoping if the Sox can get players above A ball for Bogaerts. I can see the Cubs and Reds both having interest, but their systems above A ball are not ideal for the Sox. I would love a Meadows/Glasnow/Baz style package that has two players who can step in today. Not sure who the trading partner is there, however. (But then it's not my job to know that.)

Not sure the draft order matters as much as the 2020 draft will be the bigest crapshoot in drafting history. MLB drafts are inherently that way to begin with, but now with the additional factor of no college and high school seasons, making the most recent scouting reports 12 months old minimum...

Mo Cheeks is a great name for a proctologist...

Apparently his nickname is Snellzilla. Frankly, I don't like it. "Blake the Snake" is much better...

While I reuse to write the Yankees out of the Lindor sweepstakes, I could see them simply keeping Torres at shortstop and focusing on other priorities...

My bad. I was thinking of Hunter Harvey. Cincy is still an obvious destination. My only gripe is their 3 best prospects (Lodolo, India, and Greene) that they might deal (and I don't think Bogaerts gets you all three) are all A ball players.

Lindor would be great, but expect the competition to be fierce. The Dodgers will have an opening at SS, and the Yankees might as well. The Astros might move Correa before next year and go with Toro/Bregman on the left side, so whoever takes Correa will have an opening at SS. Luckily there will be plenty of other options. Don't overlook the vastly underrated Andrelton Simmons, who hits the market this offseason as well. To me the big question is, wht teams will be interested in Bogaerts? The Reds would be an obvious choice, as their window closes significantly after 2020 and they have Freddy Glavis at SS. But they're also 9-11 and 5 games out, so they might not be so "all in." The Cubs are another option, as their window slams shut after 2021 so they need to be all in. But their only decent SP prospect is in A ball. (The Reds have MLB-ready Hunter Greene, who is the one "must get" in any deal with them.)

If you overspend, you can’t keep your young core. And with Benintendi out for who knows how long (and struggling mightily anyway), Bogaerts is probably the Sox best trade chip. The only real problem is that it’s one year too early, as next season Lindor, Seager, Story, and Correa all reach free agency and a whole slew of teams might be interested in Bogaerts. (But on the bright side for Boston, one of them will be available to replace him.)

Well of course you see no chance to compete in 2021 now. But maybe once some moves are made and people are healthy and we know what the team looks like. I imagine people were making similar statements in 2012...

If the Sox reset, will they care about being under?

He should have, but the Dodgers were reluctant to deal any of their pitching prospects. In the original deal, a third team had to be brought in to get a pitching prospect. On the bright side, you mind be the only person in the world who thinks Jeter Downs is worthless, and since you’re not a GM, maybe he can be dealt...

But... but.... but.... the cliff isn’t real!!!

He might not do it alone, but no one ever said he had to...

Sure he can. He’s a legitimate prospect. BA top 100 and MLB.com top 50 this year. Not sure what pitcher he gets, but he certainly can be flipped...

When Dombrowski was running the Tigers, he had a rotation that included the last three Cy Young winners (Scherzer,, Price and Verlander) at the time. And they started 3 straight postseason games against the Orioles and lost all three. Funny how those things turn out...

His nickname was Cam because of his last name. His real name was Malcolm Cameron...

That was the big mistake with the Betts trade. Even a relief pitching prospect is needed on this team. I disagree on Downs, although his future also might be nothing given how far away he is. Hopefully as he was clearly Plan B he can and will be dealt for a usuable arm...

Per rotoworld, it is entirely possible his IL trip is more related to quarantining for clearing COVID protocols. Either way, he is a former top prospect who has disappointed and is probably best suited for a utility infielder role, much like all of the Sox middle infielders not named Bogaerts...

This team needs relievers, too...

This long dead thread needed to be revived with the Tigers calling up a prospect with the best name for a pitcher in MLB history - Tarik Skrubal

That would be nice. If there aren't any again, one has to wonder how sustainable MLB is going forward. While this frustrating (to be kind) rotation looks easy to improve upon, not really sure what else could have been done. The Sox lost Sale and ERod before the season began, and if they had them, the Sale-Rodriguez-Eovaldi-Perez front 4 is certainly not intimidating, but it's better than this Long Island Ducks rotation the team is rolling out now, and by a lot. Losing Darwinzon Hernandez has not helped atall, either. But the Sox had no money to spend given their insanely high payroll, which was well over $200mill before the Betts trade. They had no young pitchers coming up. Their best pitching prospect above A ball whose not out with COVID-19 is probably Bryan Mata, who had 53 unimpressive innings in AA. Their best pitching prospect besides him is probably Jay Groome, who has all of 66 IP in 4 years. No help from within. They don't even have many good prospects to deal for a pitcher. Casas and Downs (who was not part of the system) headline the list. The two have combined for 12 games above A ball. They are still tradable, although not sure for what. Maybe the Sox could have dealt Benintendi for a pitcher, and in hindsight, they probably should have. And maybe they still will. But is a pitcher obtained for Benintendi really going to save this team?