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  1. But Flahery also only has one season above 2.3 fWAR. And he has only pitched one less season than Snell. (His higher trade value is strongly influenced to his lower salary.) Snell does only have one season above 2.7 fWAR, but he has also only pitched 157 IP in two seasons since his breakout year. In 2019, he managed to be worth 2.7 fWAR in 107 innings! It is not the talent that is the issue with Snell...
  2. If the Sox are taking an unwanted contract back, Polanco is my second choice behind Ender Inciarte. Polanco is coming off a HORRIBLE season last year, but he was among the MLB leaders in one positive category - exit velocity. His main problem was making contact. Anyone with top tier exit velocity and massive strikeout problems makes me first think - time to update that contact lens prescription!
  3. So you wouldn’t trade them for Jack Flaherty?
  4. But he spent most of his innings in Boston as a starter, which can give him an inflated bb rate and reduced k rate as opposed to a relief pitcher. It's not a fair comp...
  5. My thoughts are it's a fair trade, but I don't think Tampa goes for it, and really the Sox should be hesitant, too. With Tampa 1) They might not like Downs so much considering they have two very young middle infielders in MLB (Lowe and Adames) and another as the #1 overall prospect (Franco) plus a fourth (Vidal Brujan) similarly ranked to Downs. 2) Trading stars for prospects within the division is a smart move when you're a bad team and you're basically trading the best of a weak present day for the future of a division rival. In theory, they get worse as your team gets better. But Tampa is the reigning AL pennant winner, and NOT a bad team. 3) It does not even address their completely absent catching position. With Boston, it is a farm killer. And because of that, the primary goal should be to get a bad contract like Kiermaier in in order to reduce the load of dirt cheap players the team needs. I think the Sox need to be in talks with Pittsburgh for Taillon. And if they have to take back Polanco in order to reduce the asking price, I can support that, too...
  6. Well that's like when [people here expected Dustin May, Gavin Lux and Verdugo for Betts. But a deal of Casas, Houck and Jeter Downs seems more reasonable. Would the Sox go for it? Would Tampa? (It does work on BTV.)
  7. No Troy O'leary?
  8. Huh? Tom Gordon was no bueno for the Sox? He was worth 9.9 fWAR in his first 3 seasons in mutliple roles. and was 46 for 47 in save chances in 1998. His 2 seasons with the Yankees totaled 3.7 fWAR. I am questioning if you understand was "no bueno" means and think you might not know enough Spanish to live in Florida...
  9. Hey when you need work, you bleed the colors of the teams willing to sign the checks...
  10. In any deal where the Sox take on an unfavorable contract, they're probably more likely to get a 2B or RP than a starting pitcher. Unless that SP is already available anyway, with some prime examples being Sonny Gray, Jameson Taillon and Joe Musgrove...
  11. Not sure I am so confident that Nunez' .694 OPS with Boston is all that much of an improvement over the .692 he posted with the Yankees. But overall the bottom line is, the Sox have had very little luck with anyone who wore pinstripes for a full season. And the converse is not true. So yeah, avoid Tanaka...
  12. Tiant was certainly a shell of his former self from his days in Cleveland and Boston, but the list of former Yankee pitcher in Boston who made 55 starts and 332 IP is really, really small...
  13. Boggswas better for the Sox than Yankees, but also better for the Yankees than most (all?) ex-pinstripers were for the Sox, at least for those who played at least one full season in the Bronx...
  14. Well, the original postulate was that they stink unless they played minimal time for the Yankees. Jensen's 289 at bats spread out over 3 years is pretty minimal to me...
  15. I stand corrected. Mike Stanley is the undisputed champion of former Yankees in Boston (for players with over a full season in pinstripes. Otherwise it's Jackie Jensen.) I mentioned Mike Torrez earlier, but I didn't realize he only played one season in the Bronx. He actually pitched fewer games and IP for the Yankees than Nathan Eovaldi...
  16. While he was a bust for them, especially at his price, he did manage to play 520 games for them with an OPS of .716, which was below the .789 he had with the Sox. But it is hard to find a former Yankee who came to Boston that was even worth putting in 520 games. As far as I can tell, the all time leader in Red Sox games by former Yankees is 268 by Don Baylor, ahead of the 240 by Ben Chapman...
  17. Yes and his .564 OPS was some 200 points below his pinstriped numbers...
  18. He belongs on the body parts list, along with the player whose name I know has to mean something truly obscene in German - Paul Assenmacher...
  19. Interestingly, a long line of Yankee stars came out of the Red Sox organization - Babe Ruth, Herb Pennock, Carl Mays, Sparky Lyle, Wade Boggs, Johnny Damon, Jacoby Ellsbury, Luis Tiant, Roger Clemens, etc. For some reason, the reverse is simply not true, and former Yankees coming to Boston are always flops, with the one exception I can think of as Don Baylor. And he only played in Boston for two seasons. The only other positive contribution from a former Yankee I can think of was from Tony Armas Jr. whose primary skill seemed to be injuring his pitching arm. But at least he was enticement enough for the Expos to trade Pedro. And Mike Torrez was not horrible, I guess...
  20. It doesn't. It benefits the team dumping the contract. And in order to entice another team to take the deal, the idea is they include a desirable asset. Like when the Sox were trying to get the Padres to include some of their younger pitching in a deal for Wil Myers. It has been done before. In 2016, the Pirates dealt Francisco Liriano to the Blue Jays in order to dump his salary, which was nearly $27 mill for 2016 and 2017. In order to entice the Blue Jays, they also included Top 100 prospect Reese McGuire. (McGuire has yet to pan out, but the Blue Jays were able to dump Liriano on Houston for Teoscar Hernandez, which obviously did work out.)
  21. Maybe, although last year they acquired two centerfielders (Arozarena and Margot), so they might be looking to replace him at some point. And possibly ASAP as his contract escalates over the next 2 seasons...
  22. Yeah I've been floating that idea with those exact names for a while now. Of the three, I think Inciarte is the most likely since he is currently both the fourth outfielder and the highest paid outfielder on the Braves. No team wants their fourth outfielder to be their highest paid one. (Both Kiermaier and Cain make more money on longer deals, but are at least penciled in as starters.) And that team is absolutely flush with pitching. Granted they won't be dealing an ace, but just about all of their starting arms represent an upgrade for Boston...
  23. He's not getting signd without some sort of assurance on his health. And if it is a low base/heavy incentive contract, it's probably a better investment than guaranteeing a deal for a lot of the fungible dreck currently available, including what's already on the Sox roster. Half of a season of Kluber might actually have a greater positive impact than a full season of Chris Mazza. And the $30mill limit right now is really just a guess. We really don't know the budget...
  24. While not a move I am in favor of, it is possible the Sox move Benintendi or Verdugo to CF and sign a corner OF. Outside of Springer, the CF market really lacks any impact players with the only other possible exception being Bradley. But the corner OF market is a bit more robust and just got a little bigger with the Twins waiving of Eddie Rosario. One possible and I am not even sure unlikely scenario is that the Sox bring in a LF and a RHH defensive CF (Alberto Almora? Kevin Pillar?) to be a platoon/defensive replacement/4th outfielder paired with Benintendi in CF. Bringing Pillar back gives the Sox a decent option for CF if Benintendi continues to struggle. Bringing in a starting CF and a 4th outfielder capable of CF might not provide the same level of solution. I'd rather see a Rosario/Pillar/Verdugo outfield over a Pillar/Marisnick/Verdugo outfield...
  25. I'd say only Atlanta has done anything significant. Maybe the Mets, too, if you like Trevor May...
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