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We aren't going to win this one folks.
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Shaw's inexperience at 3rd cost 2 runs. Nice play to end the inning though.
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To be fair the last 2 hits have not exactly been scalded. That's 5-6 really soft hits for SF tonight. There were some loud outs as well though.
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Shaw has to make that play.
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Decent job by Ross to stop the bleeding
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Hasn't pitched in 2 weeks, he wasn't sharp early on and it caught up to him. I'd give him a couple outings before everyone goes nuts.
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Only if you know it's your last batter; whoever does is going to get tossed.
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That would be the same Pat Light of the 23.63 ERA with the big club? The 3.00 WHIP? That would be the Pat Light who has walked 16 guys in 28 innings at Pawtucket? What has he done to merit a recall over Ramirez? Noe Ramirez is not good, but he has at least gotten though a couple appearances in Boston without getting shelled. Frankly, we are talking about the #7 pitcher in the pen (I think Buchholz is #8 right now), so it's not like he's going to be used in a stress situation unless they get into a 15-16 inning game.
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I'd call the one that ended an overused 40 year old's season last year freakish.
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No, that's a legit concern. I'm talking about the people blaming Farrell because it was a 4 run game and that he never should have been brought in ... It sounds like the kind of thing that could have happened warming up in the pen, on the mound or on any pitch he threw and regardless of score. Frankly, it may have been lucky it happened in a 4 run game. How comfortable would anybody feel handing the ball off to Barnes or Layne in a 1 run game against the 2-3-4 guys in the lineup? Edit - My remark about the critics probably would have been better in the Referendum on John Farrell thread.
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Jack Flap's link above says right side pec, but I agree with you it seems like more of a freak thing than anything use related. I'd be a lot more impressed with the critics if they had made their remarks prior to the last pitch to Posey. I double checked the game thread, not a peep. Right after the injury, sure, but nothing when Koji first came in.
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Sox Pitching Staff Discussion
illinoisredsox replied to jacksonianmarch's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
All of this makes for nice discussion, but Ziegler gets the closer role for now if for no other reason than he's done before, and done it quite effectively. He was 18 of 20 THIS YEAR with the Diamondbacks. When he blew a save in late June, it ended a streak of 43 straight. He was 30 of 32 last year. He has 81 saves over his career. If Farrell turns anywhere else, the Referendum on John Farrel thread should rightly explode. -
Since Direct TV is giving the entire MLB package free this week, I was going back and forth between the Sox and Giants broadcasts. When they were closing out their broadcast last night, the SF announcers said the last time the Giants won a game at Fenway was 1915. Sounded funny to me, but they were indeed correct, they beat the Braves at Fenway on June 3, 1915. They last beat the Red Sox at Fenway in Game 7 of the 1912 World Series. The Sox took Game 8 and the Series the next day (Game 2 ended in an 11 inning tie).
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Trying to remember didn't the Sox get off to a slow start offensively after the break last year as well?
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I just want to see them start stringing together some hits. Most of their runs vs. the Yanks were on homers. Not complaining about that but I love seeing 4-5 hits in a row to put a lot of pressure on the other pitcher. Pitch count is not nearly as important as how many pitches does a guy have to make under stress.
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Sox Pitching Staff Discussion
illinoisredsox replied to jacksonianmarch's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
But the deviation on that is ridiculous. His first 11 starts (through the end of May) they got him about 7 runs a a game. Since June 1 they've scored 24 runs n 9 games (and 8 of them were in that disaster in Texas). If he were consistently getting 5 runs a game it would be great. But lately it's been less than 3 and in many of those it's been 1. Nobody wins many games with that level of support. As I posted in the game thread the other day, Kershaw is something like 22-43 when getting 2 or less runs per game, which is quite amazing. Bumgarner is 10-48 which I suspect is pretty typical. -
Then say that to start with. It just points out the vagaries of wins and losses. Price got several wins early on when he was pitching poorly but got bailed out by the offense. Lately he's been pretty good but has been victimized by poor support. Ironically the one time they got him some runs over the last month and a half was his worst outing of the season against Texas and they came back to bail him out. Let's just hope 8 days off was too much and he'll be sharper next time out on more normal rest.
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W-L is not a good barometer but since you seemed solely on whether or not an ace wins or loses a game and you say Price has to match Lester: Price with the Red Sox is 9-7 (.562 win percentage) Lester since leaving the Red Sox is 26-20 (.565) Seems like a close match to me. Like I said, I don't like W-L over such a small sample but you seem to be focused on it ...
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And since June 1 they've scored 22 runs for him in 9 starts (2.44 runs per start). 8 of those were in 1 game meaning in the other 8 starts it's 1.75 runs per game). Basically there's been no in between with him on the mound; they've either scored a ton (as in his first 11 starts when they averaged almost 7 rpg) or very little as in the last 9.
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The idea that "aces" win consistently with little run support is stupid. As I noted above Kershaw is 22-43 with run support of 2 or less runs. Baumgarner is 10-48. I think we would agree that both of them would be considered aces under any definition of the word.
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Becoming an all too familiar theme with Price on the mound. Since June 1, the Sox have scored 2, 1, 2, 2, 8 (the game at Texas that Price was absolutely brutal in), 0, 2 and 4 (with 1 tonight). Even Kershaw would have trouble winning a lot of games with support like that. Edit- career wise Kershaw is 22-43 when the Dodgers have provided him 0-2 runs. Baumgarner is 10-48 for the Giants.
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Agreed. Most of the runs this series have been on homers, almost no stringing hits together.
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So his last start before the ASB wasn't good enough?
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Sox pitchers could take a lesson on how Tanaka is pitching tonight. In-out, up,-down. He is epitomizing what Warren Spahn said: hitting is timing, pitching is upsetting timing.
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IMO Price needs to pitch inside more (not just tonight). Teams are sitting on everything being away.