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There are too many people here who just don’t get the art of pitching. You saw a prime example tonight of Warren Spahn’s statement that hitting is timing and pitching is upsetting timing. Of course, what did he know, he only won 360 games give or take.

Didn’t Bard ask to be a starter? As for losing the strike zone, that began in September 2011, when he along with the entire Sox pitching staff imploded. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=bardda01&t=p&year=2011

Pretty good? The teams he had in the early 70s were great and they were always in contention throughout his first term as their manager. During his first tenure with the Orioles, he managed 14 full seasons. They won 100 games 5 times (3 of those on a row) and he had only 3 years where the team failed to win 90 games (2 of those were strike shortened). He had a partial year in 1968 when he took over the club at midseason and he had them on a pace to win 96 games. He retired the first time after the 1982 season, and the O’s won the World Series in 2983 with a team Weaver built. Camden Yards didn’t open until 1992, 6 years after his second tenure in Baltimore.

The original Senators won the World Series in 1924, beating the Giants in 7 games. I recall reading it took a couple of bad hop singles to accomplish it, but they did it.

Complete 20-30 hindsight. It would have been a crapshoot as to how effective any pitcher may or may not have been in that downpour.

Not so much any more, max. No one wants their kid to be the youngest in the class, so parents are delaying starting school. Actually, it's okay. What used to be taught in kindergarten is now done in preschool. They start kids reading in kindergarten now, which used to be started in 1st grade. Kids are all over the place maturitywise at that age. Full disclosure, I have a September birthday. I was 5 for a couple weeks in 1st grade (i.e., I turned 6 about 2 weeks in), 16 when I started my senior year of high school, 17 when I started college. I was not unique in that regard. The cutoff in the Connecticut town I grew up in was December 31; I had a friend who didn't turn 6 in first grade until after Christmas. Weirdest thing happened on the night before my 18th birthday. Somewhere around 9 at night, I got my finger slammed in a big heavy dorm door; I went to the infirmary and they sent me on to the emergency room for x-rays. Except the ER couldn't treat me, because I was technically still a minor. My parents were moving that weekend, so there was no way to contact them (this was waaaaay before cell phones). So the ER docs waited until midnight (so I technically had turned 18) and I could legally give consent.

Cole had trouble in the 6th, when it really started coming down. He walked both Devers and Duran that inning sandwiched around an infield single. He was able to escape it. Eovaldi really had no more trouble than Cole did. He actually threw more strikes in 5 innings than Coke did in 6. Who knows what happens to Sawamura without the additional delay caused by the Verdugo incident. Just a weird game.

Some of you really need to get a grip. The field at this point is in absolutely horrible condition. That is not going to change tonight. It’s not worth players possibly getting hurt. Do I wish the game had been called at the end of 5? Sure. All that would have happened is they would have picked up the game from that point tomorrow as a suspended game. Cole was vintage Cole tonight. It was going to be hard to win this one regardless.

You were expecting something else? Saturday night games are virtually always regional.

MVP already addressed “the paranoid racist” comment by making a very similar post to him as he did to you. Vegasbob’s post was fine up until the last sentence. Your’s had no such virtue. Keep politics off of here. All politics. Did we learn nothing from last summer’s fiascos that had to be locked?

You could have left out the last sentence; it adds nothing to your post. Reports are that one of the additional players was a Yankee rep at the All-Star Game. That could put one or more of the Sox reps at risk as well.

I doubt he'll be in the line-up tomorrow night; they'll give him a day to get his bearings. What's the corresponding move for the 40 man? Santana or Chavis would appear to be the likely candidates for removal.

Not if he was removed at the end of the 7th inning. Once he came back out for the 8th, he had to face at least 2 hitters (for a total of 3). Although he never really faced a hitter, since all he did was pick the Phillie off without throwing a pitch. Maybe he did have to face 3. But I agree, Taylor was the guy to go to at that point. He just didn't have it today. It happens.

Why give him the attention he is seeking?

They rate slightly above the Yankees in my book, and the gap is only a couple pages.

I kind of liked Dalbec getting on the ump on that strike 3 call. It showed he had an idea about the strike zone, something he's seemingly lacked a lot this year. He took some good close pitches for balls today. He still has to make contact (something he also did today) so maybe there's hope.

Well, today if the Angels hit that, it would have hit the base and bounced somewhere else.

Not when you stitch the two replays together.

Max, that was Hernandez who struck out last inning; second time you’ve said it was Renfroe. And JDM didn’t ground out, or at least his ground out bore a strong resemblance to a fly ball to left. Looks like the middle of the order is starting to cool down again, which does not bode well for the offense. Plus 3 will be in Denver instead of getting a few days off.

Well, that was probably his last inning.

I’d settle for another bloop.

Very poor base running by him, which is unusual as he is one of the best if not the best one on the team.

Renfroe?

Classic getaway day mode.