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More good prospect news. It seems our IFA signings are looking pretty good. 2022: Jo. Garcia 1.063 before injury Portes .339 OPSA in Salem N Yuten .680 in Salem Y Asencio .843 2023: Cespedes 1.015 before injury Arias 1.055 and rising Y Ruiz .444 OPSA DSL Mussett .731 promoted S Nunez .761 2024: Brito .772 D Reyes .360 OPSA in DSL Fermin .760 Ju. Gonzales .939 (2019: Jh Garcia at .954)

The trade deadline, this year is 6 pm on JUL 30th. That leaves just 7 games in 8 days for the Sox to "pick a lane." 3 @ COL Off Day (THUR) 3 v NYY 1 v SEA We have a real tough stretch starting with NYY on FRI. 3 NYY 3 SEA 3 @ TEX 3 @ KCR 3 HOU 3 TEX 4 @BAL 3 @HOU 3 AZ

I expected 1-2 of the big 3 to be promoted to AAA, after the AS break.

Maybe I misheard what they said. I was kind of distracted while listening. I thought they said a few might see time in Salem in 2024.

It's hard to know how to value Abreu, and all it takes is for one GM to like him, a lot. There is much to like, and even his defense seems to be pretty decent and can improve. His worst fault is how he hits LHPs. As of now, he is a very good strong side platoon RF'er and okay CF'er. He'd be a plus LF'er for most teams. A simple swap of Abreu for a RHB might be a big help, and maybe we get a better player if we trade the 5 years of Abreu for 2-3 years from a RHB (SS, 2B, 1B, RF?) We can us Ref in LF and O'Neill in RF vs LHPs, and Rafaela in CF vs RHPs, but then our middle IF looks shaky. Adding a RHB middle IF'er at the deadline could cure that, at a low cost. I doubt we trade a top 6 prospect (Anthony, Mayer, Teel, Campbell, Bleis & Cespedes,) and I don't think we trade Zanetello, Perales, Fitts or Sandlin, either, unless we get back a good pitcher with 1.3+ years of team control. That still leaves some decent talent that can be traded for a 4/5 SPer, a RP'er or two and a RHB that plays SS (maybe 1B or 2B.) I may be over valuing these guys, but we did get Schwarber for Aldo Ramirez, so maybe we can do something with these guys: Abreu Yorke Meidroth Lugo Paulino Castro Jordan Hickey Mata (out of options and rehab almost done) Additions like these guys might help: Walter, Wikelman or Bastardo Coffey or Sogard Romero or McDonough Guerrero or Hoppe Brannon or Zeferjahn

Yes, but it's too bad there are no more FCL games, once they sign. SP's seemed to think many will go to Salem, at some point.

Shows just how quickly a changing tide affects outlooks. We have two games in hand vs most teams, and we'll need to win both to keep pace with KCR and MIN. One good thing is, MIN and KCR play each other 6 more times. Also, we play 3 at KCR in early AUG, and MIN plays 3 @ BOS in SEP. Our fate can be in our own hands, if we can beat them both- head to head, and keep pace in the rest of the games. A lot of baseball left to go. We need to beat COL, now- one game at a time.

The soxprospects.com podcast spoke about how signed draftees not being able to go to FCL might hurt, but that college players might get some action at Salem. That might push up some promotions, up the line, and some guys at AA/AAA let go.

I don’t the ATL takes Sale without a lot of cash, and that was expected. Let’s say Salescontract was expiring, last winter. Be honest: who would have wanted us extending him at $25M? $20M? $17M? $10M might have had some takers, but as Bell has pointed out, we still needed more SPers, last winter.

Agreed, but the move from Sale to Gio was made for more certainty of IP and to lessen the need for depth. Nobody expected Sale to out IP Gio. I totally agree on the depth thing. criswell was it.

They weren’t all in in 2020 or 2021, either.

I’m more than prepared: I expect nothing major, this deadline and this coming winter, too. I’m just voicing my view that we are overloaded on everyday players,especially in the OF and with LHBs. We should trade from our strength to address our higher need areas. We also have too much quantity and not enough high quality players. One or two trades of3 for 1 seems justified.

I call the Ruth for cash a trade.

We could get both and still have a decent farm, but getting one is certainly doable, while keeping enough of a farm to keep the future looking bright. We have 3 big prospects and the second tier 3 are poised to form a new "big 3." I think we can get Crochet or Skubal for 1 of the big 3 and maybe 1-2 prospects from #7 and below. I could be wrong. Maybe it takes a top 3 and a 4-6.

We could be serious buyers without it costing all that much. Guys like Crochet and Skubal have 2 arbs, left and don't cost much, this year. We could get both and still cut salary, next year by not replacing Jansen, Martin, O'Neill and Pivetta.

I think the determination is being based on current results, not the reasoning, at the time. IMO, the reasoning at the time made more sense than the Ruth, Betts, Cooper, Lyle and Bagwell trades.

There really doesn't seem to be a runaway AL top team, so in that way, I think the AL Championship is pretty much a "crapshoot." (Did I just say that?) As of now, I think we should pick the buyer's lane, but 10 more days could change that, reinforce it or make it obvious to buy.

Not saying it was a good trade. It looks horrible, now. 1. There is a long way to go before the final grade is in. 2. There are plenty of horrific trades in Sox history... maybe more than 5 are worse. I'm thinking Babe Ruth, Betts, Sparky Lyle, Bagwell, Cecil Cooper just off the top of my head. 3. It was one year of Sale.

The series from hell.

Try and have a nice BD, anyway.

Not even worst 5 on just a Sox list.

No Ref to PH for Abreu? (Watch him homer, now... LOL)

Agreed. His career high in games is this year's 43. 2022: 19 (.874 OPS) 2023: 34 (.580) 2024: 43 (.750) Career: .720 in 392 ABs Hard to tell, if someone is streaky in such short and broken sample sizes.

They may trade for Crochet and Skubal.

So, instead of expanding to 32 teams, which is probably goin g to happen, someday, would you prefer we contract to 28 teams (4 x 7 team divisions) or maybe 27 (realign to 3 x 9 team divisions.) Disband 2-3 FROM OAK, TBR, CWS or MIA? TOR BOS NYY NYM PHI BAL WASH PIT DET CLE CIN MIN MIL CHC ATL MIA HOU TEX KCR STL COL SEA SFG LAD LAA SDP ARI LVG 3- 9'S TOR BOS NYY NYM PHI BAL WSH ATL MIA PIT DET CLE CIN MIN MIL CHC KCR STL HOU TEX LVG ARI SEA SFG LAD LAA SDP