moonslav59

Again, I meant to say in the AL. I said rotation, only. I said some think they are the best in the AL. I think we are top 3-5. Our pen is probably 11-15 in MLB and 6-10 in AL. Our bats might be close to top 10, but more likely 11-15. Our D might still be bottom 5, unless Story stays healthy and gets us near #20.

It's easy to focus on the negative, and certainly several teams have better rotations than ours, although maybe not in the AL, but I think more easily overlook some serious questions about SP'ers on other teams. Yamo started just 18 games in 2024. The Dodgers have a better rotation, but Ohtani is not pitching until May, They lost Buehler. Yamo started just 18 games, and Glasnow is literally made of glass. Susaki was the apple of everyone's eye, but he has never thrown a pitch in MLB. May has a ton of talent but is rehabbing. Stone started 25 games in 2024 and might have been their most reliable guy, in '24 and is out the whole '25 season. The Yanks added Fried- someone I really wished we signed, but they also lost Cortes. Cole missed almost half a season in '24. Rodon was healthy but has an injury history that looks a lot like Buehler's. They are shopping their 29 GS'er Stroman. Gil & Schmidt are a couple nice younger SP'ers. Philly has Wheeler, Nola, Suarez, Luzardo & Sanchez. Only Luzardo has big Qs. ATL lost Fried and has the big Q for the previous 5 years in Sale, but damn, they have some nice starters: Strider, Reynaldo Lopez, Schwellenbauch & Elder. Strider did miss some time, but still...

That's not the Dodgers.

I will say, I do think our rotation has a lot of upside potential and depth. Some major questions remain, but every team has major questions about several of their starters. I'm thinking this might be the best Sox rotation, on paper in February, since 2019. We all know how that turned out, so "on paper" means just that: paper. We have a decent core of somewhat younger SP'ers returning: Houck, Bello & Crawford. We have some decent depth in Criswell, Fitts, priester and Dobbins, although some are untested. We've added some pitchers with with some very nice histories- some recent (Crochet,) some not too long ago (Buehler & Sandoval) and one a few years back (Giolito.) Add them all together, and it's hard to know what we have, but there is some promise mixed in with all the question marks.

Tommy John was a Dodger. Hey, I already admitted I meant to say "some" have us with the best rotation in the AL. No way, we are better than this. (A couple other NL teams look better, too.)

I meant to say the AL. My bad. We are being picked to finish 12th out of 15 in the AL, while fangraphs projects our rotation to be the best: Projected fWAR 15.0 BOS 13.9 NYY & SEA 13.8 DET & MIN As for the deepest, fangraphs projects only the Sox with 6 pitchers over a 1.1 fWAR. MIN & CIN have their 6th pitcher at 1.1. (Gio is 1.2) ZIPS has this, but I did not check what other teams have for depth... (They assume these guys play the full season) 5: Crochet 4.0, Houck 2.8, Bello 2.5, Buehler 2.0, Sandoval 1.8 Depth: Crawford 1.6, Gio & Priester 1.5, Whitlock 1.3 (11 GS), Fitts & Wink 1.2 and Criswell 1.1 Certainly, some others do not have our rotation #1, and it is very debatable, for sure. The Yanks could easily best the Sox rotation. They added Fried but also lost Cortes (31 GS 3.77 ERA). I'd say we should be top 3-4 in the AL and maybe top 10 in MLB, unless we have way more injuries than others. We finished 7th in 2024. We lost Pivetta (26 GS 4.14 ERA) We added Crochet (32 GS 3.58) Buehler (12 GS 4.02) and Sandoval (28 GS 4.11 in 2023) Giolito (33 GS 4.88 in 2023) Hard to predict, but somebody likes our rotation.

This is the most shocking trade since Jabbar to the Lakers in the 70's.

I was just thinking this. Before 2013, I thought we were a year or two away, and that we had "played it halfway" with all the trades. I never expected 2021 to happen, after that dreadful 2020 season, and getting next to nothing from Sale and additions like Richards. On the flip side, I felt better about 2019 than 2021 and 2022 than 2024.

I guess it's a done deal: we will suck in 2025, despite having what some consider the best and deepest rotation in MLB. Guess the band... (No googling) I wore my teeth in my hand so I could mess the hair of the night Hey, well I'm beginning to see the light...

I have to do the grunt work? First of all, we started off with the dreaded 10 game west coast trip and went 7-3. We then got swept by BAL and went 3-4 vs LAA & CLE, at home. We then went on teh road against hot PIT & CLE, going 4-2, then went home to take 2 of 3 vs the Cubs. We beat SFG in the final game in APR. 17-13 against only great teams! LOL

I would try very hard to have Ref be in every line-up vs LHPs. He is a top 20 batter vs LHPs since 2022. When and if Anthony is called up, I'd platoon Ref with Yoshida at DH. If Anthony is the FT RF'er, or splits time between CF and RF, so Abreu can play RF vs LHPs, I'd prefer Ref platoon with Yoshida at than Duran in LF. (And, no: I am not suggesting we platoon Duran.)

I don't see Grissom ever playing 3B, even with an injury. Campbell might, since he'd probably be better on D than Grissom, DHam or Mayer/Story. Romy might be okay on D at 3B, but he's not a full season guy, there.

12th in wins in the AL at 78. (77.6) Sad.

I remember Abreu was not a starter and Devers (10 gms) and Story (30 gms) missed time. Most PAs in MAR-APR 142 Duran 110 Rafaela 94 EValdez 90 Casas 80's: Yoshida, Abreu, Devers 60-71: Wong, reyes, McGuire 42-56: Dalbec & DHam 30's: Story & Ref

We tried DHam (50 GS at SS) and Reyes (1GS) at SS, and both sucked on O and D. DHam was demoted and came back to play mostly 2B but some SS. Sogard started 6 games. Rafaela was the primary plug-in at SS, but I do not think he was listed #2 on the pre-season depth chart at SS. Story started 26 games at SS. In 2023: GS 54 Kike, 35 Story, 30 Chang (in season add) 25 Reyes, 10 DHam, 5 Rafaela, 2 Arroyo, 1 Dalbec

Of course. That is very common.

Why don't our bats slump in April?

Mine: 1. Devers has a career high OPS+ 2. Casas hits 30 bombs and has an OPS+ over 135. 3. Campbell wins ROY. 4. Narvaez wins the starting Catcher job by August. 5. Buehler starts 27 games and has an ERA under 3.40. 6. Slaten becomes our closer by July. 7. Penrod will not be on the 40 Man Roster after the deadline.

Yes, this whole issue could be "solved" by signing Grichuk or Laureano or add someone else who hits lefties well and can play a decent RF. That would pretty much force a DH platoon with Yoshida and Ref, with Ref playing some short field corner OF, when someone gets a breather vs a lefty.

Haven't given those two much thought. I think Sabathia had 6-7 really good years and maybe a handful of pretty good ones. I'm not sure on him. Halladay was super great for 6 years in a row and a couple other years, too. He was decent for 3-4 more. I'd say he is closer and deserves it.

Good points. I'm not saying he doesn't "deserve it" over others already in the HOF. I don't think some in it belong, so that argument rings hollow, to me. (Not that Feller & Marichal don't belong.)

He may not be, but he did show "concern," last year as his starts in Fenway's RF vs LF were way different than on the road. "Overly concerned" is a loaded term. I do think we'll see ref in Fenway's RF, in 2025. More than 6 starts? I'm not sure. (Most of those 6 starts were when Abreu was out hurt.)

Fine. Just checking. (I agree: it should count.) He did very well the next year, when he played over 150 games (career high OPS)

The scary thing is, the "interest" has stopped.

You obviously did not pay attention to how Cora did move Ref around based on the park and lefty-righty pitcher. You are the one suggesting he will change the way he does thing, not us.