moonslav59
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I didn't even want Abad on the team, so I'm with you 100%. I was just stating what I felt the reason was for keeping him around. Another reason could be the uncertainty surrounding Ross- the other lefty. BTW, when Thorburg returns, we'll have our best RP'er vs LHBs on the 25 man roster. His reverse splits are mind-boggling.
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He still might be our best 3B option this year. I had hoped he got a longer look before this.
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..and keeping pen depth is never a bad idea...get it? A Bad idea? As of now, no great RP'er has had to be on the farm to make room for Abad. Some good one, but nobody who just had to be on the 25.
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He was in pretty steady decline, but the curve went off a cliff. His drop from 2011 to 2012 was something that should have been alarming (.909 to .789), and the fact that he did not immediately go up in any of the following years showed there was cause. The expectation should have been for further decline- possibly as large as the 2011 to 2012 one. .909> .789> .758> .739 right before Boston. Looking at his last two years, the drop off was just 20-30 points a year, but even if he continued at that rate, we might have expected... 2015: .715 2016: .690 2017: .665 2018: .640 2019: .615 If you took the average yearly drop from 2011 to 2014, it would be 170 points divided by 3 or about 55 points a year: 2015: .685 2016: .630 2017: .575 2018: .520 2019: .465 Somewhere in between could have been expected, and so far, somewhere in between is what we got.
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I wonder why we bothered to pay him so much to begin with.
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How did Pablo hurt his knee?
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I can't imagine us being worse defensively or vs LHPs, so the only area we might suffer is on offense vs righties.
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Add the $9 or $10M we gave Masterson, and we could have paid $30M.
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Yes, and clearly Abad would have to go, as he is out of options: 12 pitchers (options remaining): SP1 Sale SP2 Porcello SP3 Price SP4 ERod (2) SP5 & 6 Pom (0)/Wright (0) (one in long relief) RP1 Kimbre RP2 Smith (2) RP3 Thornburg (1) RP4 Kelly (1) RP5 Barnes (2) RP6 Hembree (0) (bubble in?) Bubble out?: Ross (2) Scott (3) Taylor (3) Abad (0) Workman (2) N Ramirez (1) Elias/Johnson/Owens/Kendrick/Haviland/Velezquez/Olmos/K Martin
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If I had to guess, upper management wanted it more. Just my opinion.
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Think about it, we've received one productive year for $80M. What other job can you f*** up so badly? And I thought getting one good year out of 3 year $39M for Shane Victorino was a rip off. We might end up spending $183M (Pablo + HRam) for just one good year (HRam's 2016 season). Even that season was just our 9th best WAR on the team at 2.6. We spent what amounted to $30M for one year of Renteria.
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I believe for many, the problem was that we got into some back contracts with the signing of Crawford. That came from nowhere. That was a horrible signing from day one as well. At the time, I said his contract would "cripple us for many years" and that he was nothing more than a "glorified platoon player". His poor defense did sort of come out of "nowhere", but his decline was faster and steeper than even I expected. CC's splits before joining Boston: Year vs RHPs/ vs LHPs 2008 .754/.641 2009 .868/.704 2010 .930/.696 You guys probably think I'm hung up on splits, but it seems to me that players with wildly large splits seem to decline faster than others.
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He faced a RHP for 46 PAs and a LHPs for just 15. That should be the other way around. That being said, he actually hit righties better!
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If we could get that this year from our 3B position, I'd be tickled pink!
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Maybe, if and when Pablo returns, he'll continue the platoon idea.
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What's wrong with Bam Bam at DH? Bustin Pedroia at 2B, Bitch Moreland at 1B and Bazquez behind the plate?
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Since 2013 includes 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017. His decline actually started from 2011 to 2012, but he was still decent in 2012. While his UZT/150 was plus 3.4 in 2014, and one could consider that a decent year, a .739 OPS at 3B doesn't quite cut it for me. Obviously from 2015 to now, he's been a complete disaster. Worst or second worst 3B OPS (550+ PAs). Worst UZR/150 by a 3Bman (-22.0- a full 7 points worse than number 31, Danny Valencia)
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So what now? A Rutledge-Hernandez platoon at 3B? (Devers has an .813 OPS at Portland.)
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Yeah, since 2013.
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There were a few on the old BDC board who thought it was necessary despite the extra year and money. I remember talk of signing Headley instead. He's been a failure, too, but not as spectacular, and at least he provided defense. I liked the idea of signing Scherzer, instead of Pablo & Masterson, and then going after Valbuena or the like. With HRam hurt and starting slowly, now that signing is back to looking questionable, at best.
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soxprospects.com's take on our upper level pitching on the farm... http://news.soxprospects.com/2017/04/system-restart-17-upper-level-pitching.html
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Our killer Bs now hold 4 of the top 5 slots in OPS (29+ PAS): .938 Moreland .859 Beni .858 Betts .825 Bradley .729 Bogey .646 Pablo .639 Marco .627 Young .603 Pedey .575 HRam .540 Leon Team OPS by position: .938 1B .870 CF .806 RF .791 C (6th in MLB catcher OPS) .733 SS .649 LF .616 3B .604 2B .576 DH
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As much as I hated the signing from minute one, I never expected him to be this bad, especially on defense. My point about the SFG's being upset losing him was meant to show how hard it is for GMs to gauge future expectation. It's easy to blame Ben "for not seeing the writing on the wall", but the team that knew the most about Pablo missed it too. I get why we chose going after offense that winter and saving the pitching push for the big starter market the following season, but signing just HRam would have been fine with me. Other than the extra 1-2 years given to Pablo, I was actually more upset with the one year deal with Masterson as the "solution" to our pitching woes.
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Matt Barnes suspended for four games and fined
moonslav59 replied to FredLynn's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
We'll never know for sure, if Barnes was aiming at his head. He might have missed by a foot or more. It's a dangerous road to take, and the league did well with their punishment, but I do think Barnes was expected to do something. Maybe the O's will be less likely to make slides that that against us going forward. -
The one strange thing about the signing was how badly SF was hurt when he left, or it was a spectacular show of false sadness. You'd think they knew more about him than anybody, yet they wanted him back badly. Obviously, they frowned on the 5th year, but I think I remember they surprisingly offered 4 years. When we signed HRam, I was sure it was as a 3Bman, until they announced the Pablo signings right afterwards. I wish we had take Pablo's money plus Masterson's and signed Scherzer (about the same money for year 1).
