moonslav59
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Wow, $18M/1. No way Porcello gets just $8M/1 as some said he might take.
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They have 6 roster slots on the 40 man, and depending on us trading JBJ (or other), we might have a couple more. As for the 26 man roster, I see only 18 sure bets with one being Lin by default. Sale, Price, ERod, Eovaldi, DHern Workman, Barnes, Taylor, Walden Vaz Chavis Lin Bogey Devers Beni JBJ Betts JD That's basically 8 slots open, not counting a likely JBJ trade. Add Hembree, Velazquez & Brasier or some other in-system RP'er, and we still have 5 slots: 1B 2B OF SP Rule 5 guy or another SP'er
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I'm not for moving Devers, but I will say this- nothing seems to faze this kid. High pressure situations, going through some bad slumps and having some very difficult stretches in the field- he's bounced back from all of them with an air of superior confidence in himself. I'm not expert on psychology, but if I had to pick one guy on the Sox (other than Betts) who could handle a major position change without it creating issues, it would be Devers. For one who seems to love Devers more than anyone here, you seem to have little faith in his ability to adjust. Maybe I love him more! Lol!
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You keep tooting this same horn, and I'm not going to say I know more about injuries than you, but I still think Sale is going to surprise you. He may have to re-invent himself a little bit, but he started to last year, and had his highest K rate ever while pitching with this issue. There is reason for hope, but certainly we Sox fans must be ready for disappointment as well.
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I have loved Devers from day 1 in the Gulf league. Yes, I was one who thought he should probably be moved to 1B, but I have always said he should get a chance to prove himself at 3B, first. He is improving a lot, so I am currently not for moving him, and I love the kid. BTW, he's a very good baserunner. He has good instincts on the basepaths, and is twice the runner Beni is- not even counting speed.
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I said "It is not the right thing to do" to move Devers to 1B, even if our defense would be improved. Dalbec is rated much higher than "adequate" at 3B, and while Devers greatly improved his defense, last year, and may continue improving, let's not kid ourselves. He started near the worst in MLB and has moved up to adequate or maybe a little better. Again, I'm NOT for moving Devers to 1B, right now, but I do believe, from what I've heard and read, Dalbec is a better defensive 3Bman at this moment in time.
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Trading Price for Myers is probably the best way to recoup some of the money and still have some hope on better-than-meager returns. (I'd even throw in Chavis and more, if we can get Margot also.)
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I agree, and I probably shouldn't try to speak for Nick. I don't think any of us want to trade Dalbec for a middle pack RP'er. I might trade Chavis for a slightly upper-middle pack RP'er who is dependable or who can give 70+ IP.
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notin came up with this one on trade simulator: BOS: Fisher, Gaviglio, Giles LAA: Dalbec TOR: Marsh Here's another he made, but I swapped Dalbec for Chavis: BOS: Hader, Ramos NYM: Houck MIL: Dalbec, Smith, Vazquez
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Well said, and if we really want Betts back after trading him, we could tell him that. We could offer him a great deal now, and say, if you don't take it, we may trade you, so we can be better when we bid for you next winter. We want you back. If it's all about money, then we'll have to make the best offer. If it wasn't about the money (unlikely), then we did well by trading him.
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I get your point. The 3-way deal makes sense. if we don't want prospects for Betts. In theory, no team trading for 1 year of Betts would want to give up equal ML talent, since they want to win in 2020. They want to give prospects. If we don't want prospects, we find a 3rd team that will take the prospects, since they are in rebuild mode. They give us the ML talent we want and need.
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Maybe he meant ML RP'er. In theory he may be worth a top prospect RP'er.
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I like Dalbec a lot. I like him more than Chavis. However, I think his greatest value is at 3B, and I think moving Devers to 1B might create issues we shouldn't mess with. Devers at 1B and Dalbec at 3B makes the most sense to me, on paper, but that doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. I'm not for trading Dalbec because I don't like him or I want to weaken the farm. I'm thinking that trading him (maybe as part of a package) for a higher need area prospect or young player might be the best plan.
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I'm glad we were able to keep Osich & Marco and reduce our budget slightly.
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Oh, I agree, but our unique situation and the roster being expanded to 26 next year might change the equation enough to make a go at rule 5.
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Trading Dalbec with a vet for a young cost-controlled player who plays a position we actually need someone to play is as good as building the farm. IMO, Dalbec has more value to another team than ours. We have a 3Bman. We could trade Dalbec for another prospect that pitches, plays 2B or CF (assuming we trade JBJ).
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No matter what you say in the intro, of course people are going to examine the names, and your example was lop-sided. Yes, a 3-team trade may be the best way for us to get what we want for Betts, since we may not want prospects- a 3rd team would want.
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The rankings are out. 1. Ohio St. 2. LSU 3. Clemson 4. Georgia 5. Utah (I had OK here.) 6. Oklahoma 7. Baylor 8. Wisconsin (I don't get this at all.) 9. Florida 10. Penn St. 11. Auburn 12. Alabama (I had them 9th) 13. Oregon 14. Michigan (Too high.) 15. Notre Dame 16. Iowa 17. Memphis If Utah and Oklahoma win, and Georgia loses to LSU, I think OKL should be #4. If Baylor wins, it might come down to who looked better in their wins. (Oregon should not go, if they win.)
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With our roster depth looking weak- both the 26 and 40 man, keeping a non-ML ready player in that extra 26th slot might be worth a gamble.
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I just noticed I called you an " a hole guy" Sorry!
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I thought you were a hole guy.
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Yes, so 30% not 20%.
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Donuts cost over a dollar, these days... good ones anyways.
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Looking at the Dodgers: Pollock is owed $51M/3 counting the buyout for 2023. He has negative trade value and would greatly offset the cost of Price ($96M/3). Looking at Price, for a cost of $45M/3 is not so bad. He might even get that as a FA this winter, assuming he was one. Joc Pederson might get about $10M in his last arb year. While that's way less than Betts, it does knock the cost of Betts to $18M not $28M. All-in all, the money part of the deal works for the Dodgers, IMO. The sticking point might be the prospect we want added to the deal (or maybe add Chris Taylor- assuming we dump JBJ & Kenta Maeda). From the Sox point of view, we see these budget savings: 2020: $35M ($60M Price+ Betts- $25M Pollock + Pederson) 2021: $14M ($32M Price- $18M Pollock) 2022: $19M ($32M Price- $13M Pollock) Total savings: $68M The Lux tax hit is even better: 2020: $35M ($31M Price+$28M Betts- $12M Pollock+$10M Pederson) 2021: $19M ($31M Price- $12M Pollock) 2022: $19M ($31M Price- $12M Pollock) $73M total Lux Tax savings
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Dalbec has a higher trade value than Chavis on the trade simulator site. I agree with that assessment. I also think we lose some of his value by forcing him to play 1B. We lose his plus D at 3B, and his bat will be harder to meet 1B expectations than 3B expectations.
