moonslav59

I agree. We need an ace and another SP'er, even if just for depth. We need a legit closer. We could probably use another solid pen arm. 2B and CF are holes, for sure, but to me, they are secondary priorities to pitching. At least we have 4-5 guys to choose from at 2B, even though none look very promising. CF and OF depth will be addressed- just maybe not with a lot of cash.

Yes, put in bigger seats that actually face the diamond. More and nicer restrooms. Maybe put a high tech upper deck right over the existing structure, at least from foul pole to foul pole...adding 10+ seats. Keep the original image intact.

Word was other teams asked about JBJ. That doesn't mean they wanted him more than other choices.

take it to the 2021 thread.

There's also... Michael Brantley Moises Alou Jason Schmidt

How about a guy named David Ortiz?

They are both FAs after this year, so it was likely about who brought us back the better return.

So, we added a couple players-to-be-named later to our farm- probably not anything great, but sometimes baby steps turn to giant ones. soxprospects.com has this as out 2021 roster: SP1 ____________ SP2 Eovaldi SP3 ERod SP4 Perez SP5 Pivetta/Godley Closer ____________ RP2 Barnes RP3 D Hernandez RP4 Taylor RP5 Valdez RP6 Brice RP7 Brasier/Brewer/Walden C Vazquez/Plaecki 1B Dalbec/Chavis 2B Peraza/Chatham 3B Devers SS Bogaerts LF Benintendi CF Duran/Lin RF Verdugo DH Martinez Borderline Pitchers: Hall, Covey, Springs, Triggs Notable Minor Leaguers SP Mata, Ward, Seabold, Hart RP Houck, Poyner, Mazza, Shawaryn, Bazardo, Feltman C Wong (Rei AA) 1B Ockimey (Casas AA) 2B Downs (Netzer AA) 3B de la Guerra (Howlett AA) SS Arauz (Williams AA) LF Puello (Brannen AA) CF Matheney (Jimenez AA) RF Wilson (Decker AA) DH Castellanos (AA)

There was talk a team or two were interested. A bag of balls would have been worth it. I can't believe nobody wanted him with some cash. I could be wrong, and the rumors could have been wrong. We did dump every other player that will be a FA, so I guess I shouldn't complain. Plus, it's not like Duran or Jimenez are ML ready, now.

Maybe it was wishful thinking on my part.

Winter deals do happen.

I'm JBJ's biggest fan, and I agree on this. I was surprised we agreed to pay him that much, and that we didn't trade him.

I'm surprised we didn't trade JBJ w cash for something. We don't know what the offers were for Eovaldi & Barnes, and both have another year left, so waiting and hoping their stock rises might work out. Vaz has 2 years of control, so that non trade is understandable. All in all, we traded every FA to be but Jackie.

I'd rather get someone with longer team control than both of these guys' 2 years.

We talked about this one at length, last year.

Yes. It's been warlike.

I'll join the war against the war on WAR.

I'd also seriously consider trading those who will be FAs after 2021 as well, but I would not just trade them for the best offer like I would JBJ & Pillar. That's not to say I may take the best offer on Perez & Barnes, if I think no offers will ever be better this winter or next summer.

No, but the clock was ticking on his health, and always is. I'd love to know if there were any offers, and how much we were expected to pay of his remaining contract.

We can pay part or most of JBJ's contract, if it can improve the return. We could also couple him (or Pillar) with Perez and/or Vaz and go for a bigger haul.

Guardians, too.

We should have traded Eovaldi while he was briefly healthy.

He's not done: next up Perez, JBJ , Pillar and Barnes. Outside moves: Vaz and JD. Next summer? ERod and Eovaldi

I'm no expert on prospects. He's ranked 21st on soxprospects.com. Physical Description: Undersized, compact frame. Solid athlete. Has some room to add additional strength, but close to maxed out physically. Hit: Starts square and utilizes a toe-tap timing device. Plus bat speed. Short, direct swing path. Approach is raw at present. Very aggressive in the early stages of his career. Looks to attack fastballs early in the count and rarely works deep counts. Pull heavy approach at present. Has shown the tendency to expand the zone against breaking balls early in his career. Potential average hit tool. Organization is tweaking his mechanics slightly from college. Power: Below-average game power. Swing lacks lift and is designed more for hard gap to gap contact than over the fence power. Run: Below-average speed. Speed plays up on the base paths due to above-average instincts. Stolen bases will not be a big part of his game. Arm: Fringe-average arm strength. More than adequate for second base, but a little light for the left-side of the infield. Defense: Profiles best as a second baseman. Not out of the realm of possibility he ends up at short, but he lacks fluidity and feel at shortstop. Average range and hands are also on the rough side for shortstop. Not the most instinctual defender, has shown the tendency to let ground balls play him rather than attack the ball. Career Notes: Drafted by the Diamondbacks in the 21st round of the 2016 draft, but honored his commitment to the University of Arizona. Participated in the Fall Instructional League in 2019. Summation: Ceiling of a second-division bat-first regular at second base. Solid chance of developing into a bench utility player. Bat will have to carry him as defensively he doesn't project to add significant value. Needs to improve defensively and refine approach.

Here's a look at the Sox players with 3 or more years of team control by age: 31 Sale Walden 29 Weber 28 P Valdez 27 Bogey Taylor Pivetta Brewer Hart Springs 26 Lin 25 Dalbec Chatham 24 Verdugo Chavis Wong Seabold Houck 23 Devers D Hernandez Downs Ward Song Duran M Wilson Feltman 22 Groome Murphy Zefrjahn Cannon 21 Mata H Potts Arauz Bello Liu 20 Casas Jimenez J Rosario Decker J Rodriguez 19 Lugo A Ramirez A Flores 18 Yorke Bonaci 17 Jordan