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  1. moonslav59
    I'm thinking maybe we trade Chavis or Dalbec for Myers and Quantril plus cash. The trade simulator says theyd have to give about $44M to make it even. I doubt they do that, but I'd take less. Maybe add JBJ for Naylor and that lessens the money bigtime.
  2. moonslav59
    Myers is owed $68.5M/3 and his luxury tax number is $41.4M/3. If SD pays the difference ($27.5M) Myers will cost us zero on the lux tax line. If they pay more, we get a net gain on the tax line.
  3. moonslav59
    Yes, and Chavis & Dalbec are RH'd.
  4. moonslav59
    Here are the values set by the Trade Values site of some SD players of possible interest: -47.4 Myers -owed $68.5M/3 but Lux is $13.8M x 3 +8.0 Baez (RHP)- pre arb +8.6 Quantrill (SP)- pre arb +12.8 Naylor (OF/1B)- pre arb +13.7 Morejon (LHP prospect) +16.0 Yates (Closer)- $7.1M x 1 year, then FA +32.1 Campusano (C prospect)
  5. moonslav59
    If we get Myers, I wonder why we signed Moreland. We have Chavis and Dalbec to help at 1B, too. Getting Quantrill would be nice, but even half of Myer's deal is a burden beyond 2020. I'll wait to see the full deal before giving my opinion. I wonder if Bloom sees something in Myers he thinks he can correct and see improvement.
  6. moonslav59
    Funny how you downplayed Kimbrel's role in the 2018 ring season due to his playoff woes, yet Kelly did great in the playoffs, and he's AAAA replaceable. Can you stick to one criteria?
  7. moonslav59
    I seriously doubt anything said by Henry meant we got less in trade. Everyone knew we were not going for a 2020 ring, when we didn't bid on anyone special and replaced Porcello with Perez.
  8. moonslav59
    Yes, it's been near total gloom and doom from you and others. Total. Bloom has yet to produce- NO s***! He should be fired for not winning us ring by now.
  9. moonslav59
    Plus Kelly & Pom. That's only 20% of the team.
  10. moonslav59
    It was not the same team- by a lot.
  11. moonslav59
    We made a big step in the right direction. Of course those trying to sell tickets will spin and spin. Henry will continue to spend to win. We will get back on top, at some point.
  12. moonslav59
    I guess it was, but I really think the reset was a mandate- not a priority. If it was a true option, the reset in 2021 and having Betts for 2020 would have really left us much worse off looking at 2021 and beyond than we do right now looking at 2020 and beyond. One can argue trying to win in 2020 would have been worth a worse extended future outlook, but I don't get the sense that some feel we're not much better off looking at 2021 and beyond than we would have been without the big trade. Try trading Price, alone, after 2020. He'd be a year older and worse. Try finding a Verdugo, Downs and Wong in our system or through the draft.
  13. moonslav59
    You can't expect a GM to win rings with a spending budget of $60-80M. He did a great job with what he was given. To say he was "hardly successful is a gross understatement. One could argue he did better than anyone in MLB within the context of the budgets and situations handed to him. Sure, he still needs to prove himself, here. Dan D. had the same reputation coming to us from Montreal, and he never won a ring, but he did set Theo up nicely. I'm having a hard time understanding all the gloom and doom on Henry on Bloom. I get the sadness of losing Betts, and maybe some here never had to endure decades of frustration following the Sox of old, but I'm damn proud of this team and the owners and managers. We've hit a bump in the road. We all knew it was coming, or should have, and now it's time to look forward to a swift rebuild and return to the top. The quicker the better, for us fans, but we need to be more thoughtful about the long term, so maybe this doesn't happen so often.
  14. moonslav59
    We had to do something, and my guess is none of them would have made 2020 look any better, unless we just punted to 2021 making that much worse than we look now.
  15. moonslav59
    I'm not sure why you feel it's devastating to lose Betts, now, but it won't be next winter. I get the part about the trade being our choice and him walking being more his choice, but I have to think we are way better off looking at 2021 and beyond due to this trade. The reset alone, in 2020 instead of 2021 greatly improves the chances we are better in 2021. The added $16M from trading Price should greatly help us in 2021 and 2022. Verdugo is no slouch. The kid has a lot of upside potential and is pretty good even if he just gives what he did in 2019 over the rest of his time here. Downs is a top 2 prospect. Wong is top 12 or 15. Sure, there's a chance none of this helps, bu to me our extended future looks much brighter due to the trade. We'd be looking at a reset in 2021, no Betts, no money to spend to replace him, the last 2 years of an aging Price's contract of $32M a year, and a much weaker farm than we have now.
  16. moonslav59
    Maybe not a lot of people, and if you read about how many here seem to feel like Betts will decline swiftly after age 31-32, one can make the comp. Clemens was a beast with Boston, despite his "off years" prior to his leaving. He most certainly belongs on the list with Lester, Betts, Lynn and Fisk. Put him last on the list, if you wish, but he belongs on the list, IMO.
  17. moonslav59
    The trade hurts bad, but it's what was best for the long term outlook of the team. Maybe it was a "desperate move," at a time when we didn't have to be desperate, but had we not traded him, we'd have been even more "desperate" after 2020.
  18. moonslav59
    Yes, but a couple had 4+ very good seasons afterwards. I get that they don't fit the group listed, but Clemens does.
  19. moonslav59
    I'm sad he's gone. He always gave it his all, and seemed like a great clubhouse guy, too.
  20. moonslav59
    Here's a minor league signing we've been waiting for... https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/02/red-sox-nearing-deal-with-jonathan-lucroy.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
  21. moonslav59
    True. I think Burleson might not belong on the list, but he wasn't old. Is there anyone you'd put behind Lester? Certainly, Roger Clemens. (I'm not counting prospects traded that became great, either- like Bagwell or Schill or even Cecil Cooper.) Mo Vaughn? George Scott (1st time)? Reggie Smith? Paplebon? Ellsbury? Burks? Beckett? Bill Lee? Hurst? Tiant? Also, while Boggs was 35 when he left Boston, he did go on tho hit .803 in 2600 PAs with NYY. Damon was 31 and hit .821 in NY (4 yrs) in over 2500 PAs. Burleson was 29, and played very little after the trade, but he was prime when he left. (True, he was no Betts or Fisk.)
  22. moonslav59
    I wish we kept Ben, but I'm not going all psycho analytical on Henry. The guy is a hero. I'm not getting all the hatred being spewed towards him. Even the 2020 team will be a top 4 or 5 spending team.
  23. moonslav59
    I hardly ever bring it up, anymore. I'm fine with never talking about it again. We all know each other's positions. I guess, once many of the prospects we traded away show what they have, it may be worth revisiting. I'm just glad we are refocusing on farm-building. We will need it.
  24. moonslav59
    Well, we do have six half 2Bmen... Peraza (paid $2.9M) Chavis Lin Arauz Chatham Marco (maybe Dalbec?)
  25. moonslav59
    Betts Lynn Fisk Lester Boggs Nomar Manny Burleson Lackey Damon Pedro
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