moonslav59

I had hoped with the trades made, we'd be a little higher, but this shows just how hard it is to build a strong farm while winning so much and spending over the limits.

So here's what you're working with, plus the 7 they need to add: C: Vazquez, Plawecki, Wong CIF: Devers, Chavis, Dalbec, Potts MIF: Pedroia, Bogaerts, Chatham, Arauz, Peraza OF: Benintendi, Martinez, Wilson, Verdugo, Rosario UT: Lin, Munoz SP: Rodriguez, Sale, Eovaldi, Weber, Hart, Perez, Godley, Pivetta, Groome, Houck, Mata, Seabold RP: Barnes, Walden, Brasier, Brewer, Taylor, Hernandez, Aybar, Brice, Springs, Valdez, Stock, Triggs, Leyer Swing: Mazza, Hall, Covey, Kickham We certainly don't have a roster crunch. (I highlighted, in red, those I wouldn't cry if DFA'd or traded for scraps...not even counting Eovaldi. We will certainly add FA's and pieces via trades, and then there is Rule 5 additions. Here's that list to choose from (You have some listed already): Christopher Acosta Eduard Bazardo Garrett Benge Gary Calvo Pedro Castellanos Kutter Crawford Ricardo Cubillan Chad De La Guerra Jerry Downs Jose Espada Rio Gomez Jay Groome Hunter Haworth Tanner Houck Matt Kent Jose Larez Adam Lau Dominic LoBrutto Everlouis Lozada Bryan Lucas Charlie Madden Alan Marrero Joan Martinez Bryan Mata Tate Matheny Alexander Montero Oddanier Mosqueda Brendan Nail Brett Netzer Tanner Nishioka Emerson Ortiz Michael Osinski Yorvin Pantoja Isaac Pinales Antonio Police Hudson Potts Bobby Poyner Roniel Raudes Austin Rei Denyi Reyes Jeremy Rivera Jeisson Rosario Jagger Rusconi Yasel Santana Zach Schellinger Alex Scherff Nick Sciortino Connor Seabold Mike Shawaryn Kervin Suarez Jake Thompson Josh Tobias Connor Wong Minor League FAs, unless added to 40 man: Stetson Allie Christina Arroyo Roldani Baldwin Jett Bandy Seth Blair Rusney Castillo Juan Centeno Enmanuel De Jesus Jhonathan Diaz Raynel Espinal Yoel Espinal Stephen Gonsalves Trevor Hildenberger Ryder Jones Tommy Joseph Kevin Lenik Nick Longhi Jonathan Lucroy Daniel McGrath Joey Meneses Johan Mieses Josh Ockimey Jhonny Pereda Cesar Puello Andrew Schwaab Caleb Simpson Kevin Steen Cole Sturgeon Domingo Tapia Konner Wade Tom Windle

I don't disagree. I actually said, "Trade him" after his good start- right before he fizzled and went on the IL. If we can get someone to pay part of his contract or make an Eovaldi-Odor type trade, it might be worth it.

He's just 21. It's my understanding he does not have to stay on the 26 man roster, next year to stay. Keep him in AAA, until he shows he he will or will not make it. With our weak 40 man roster, it's not like he's holding down someone better.

Yes, Rusney's deal is done. While it doesn't represent a tax savings due to some finagling, it's still $14M less Henry is paying. Pedey's deal drops after 2021 (about $14M on the luxury tax docket). Saving $16M a year on Price helps, too. I'm hopeful the financial outlook spurs Henry into opening up his wallet.

Yes, resetting the tax only really matters, if it means we will eventually use the saved tax payments to obtain more or better players. With our draft position possibly falling (or has it been decided, yet?), our longer term future may be negatively impacted, but this will be a very difficult draft. We may still end up striking gold, and having a top 7 or 8 pick likely increases our odds of striking gold. Surely,picking first or second improves those odds, but we'll see. The increased IFA pool money could be bid, as well.

Maybe he views what we got in return as "nothing."

Have they actually made a final decision on the draft order?

Beni will be part of the 2021 team, if and until he proves he doesn't belong. He won't be traded this winter, IMO. Eovaldi or Barnes might be.

I agree. We need an ace and another SP'er, even if just for depth. We need a legit closer. We could probably use another solid pen arm. 2B and CF are holes, for sure, but to me, they are secondary priorities to pitching. At least we have 4-5 guys to choose from at 2B, even though none look very promising. CF and OF depth will be addressed- just maybe not with a lot of cash.

Yes, put in bigger seats that actually face the diamond. More and nicer restrooms. Maybe put a high tech upper deck right over the existing structure, at least from foul pole to foul pole...adding 10+ seats. Keep the original image intact.

Word was other teams asked about JBJ. That doesn't mean they wanted him more than other choices.

take it to the 2021 thread.

There's also... Michael Brantley Moises Alou Jason Schmidt

How about a guy named David Ortiz?

They are both FAs after this year, so it was likely about who brought us back the better return.

So, we added a couple players-to-be-named later to our farm- probably not anything great, but sometimes baby steps turn to giant ones. soxprospects.com has this as out 2021 roster: SP1 ____________ SP2 Eovaldi SP3 ERod SP4 Perez SP5 Pivetta/Godley Closer ____________ RP2 Barnes RP3 D Hernandez RP4 Taylor RP5 Valdez RP6 Brice RP7 Brasier/Brewer/Walden C Vazquez/Plaecki 1B Dalbec/Chavis 2B Peraza/Chatham 3B Devers SS Bogaerts LF Benintendi CF Duran/Lin RF Verdugo DH Martinez Borderline Pitchers: Hall, Covey, Springs, Triggs Notable Minor Leaguers SP Mata, Ward, Seabold, Hart RP Houck, Poyner, Mazza, Shawaryn, Bazardo, Feltman C Wong (Rei AA) 1B Ockimey (Casas AA) 2B Downs (Netzer AA) 3B de la Guerra (Howlett AA) SS Arauz (Williams AA) LF Puello (Brannen AA) CF Matheney (Jimenez AA) RF Wilson (Decker AA) DH Castellanos (AA)

There was talk a team or two were interested. A bag of balls would have been worth it. I can't believe nobody wanted him with some cash. I could be wrong, and the rumors could have been wrong. We did dump every other player that will be a FA, so I guess I shouldn't complain. Plus, it's not like Duran or Jimenez are ML ready, now.

Maybe it was wishful thinking on my part.

Winter deals do happen.

I'm JBJ's biggest fan, and I agree on this. I was surprised we agreed to pay him that much, and that we didn't trade him.

I'm surprised we didn't trade JBJ w cash for something. We don't know what the offers were for Eovaldi & Barnes, and both have another year left, so waiting and hoping their stock rises might work out. Vaz has 2 years of control, so that non trade is understandable. All in all, we traded every FA to be but Jackie.

I'd rather get someone with longer team control than both of these guys' 2 years.

We talked about this one at length, last year.

Yes. It's been warlike.