moonslav59
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I never said to win it all in 2021. Why would signing someone to a long deal, this winter, be only about winning in 2021? I'm not saying we should or will sign a big name, but we do want to get better in 2021 without harming our chances in 2022 and beyond. If we can find one key piece, this winter, why put it off? Maybe Bloom doesn't see a keeper, and puts it off. I'm fine with that and trust he knows what he's doing.
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I'm all for building up the farm, but there comes a time when a big deal is needed to put a team over the top. Can teams win without doing that? Yes, but we never have.
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Yes, but are we certain he can never be a starter?
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A few people said he was slated to be a RP'er, perhaps based on health issues. He was mostly a starter in the minors and has started for the Dodgers, this year. I'm not sure we can say he had to be a RP'er.
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Well, before today's game, that didn't seem all that out of the question. Let's see how he finishes the season and looks in spring training. It's nice to have hopes about one of our pitchers from our system.
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I think we can do better for close to the same or less. Here's what some OF'ers got last winter (pre-COVID): Kole Calhoun $8M x 2 S Akiyama $7M x 3 Y Tsutsugo $6M x 2 A Jones $4M x 2 Pillar $4.25M x 1 Markakis, Thames, Gordon $4M x 1 B Miller & Dyson $2M x 1
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I understand your hesitancy to sign big contracts, but every ring we've ever won was dependent on at least one large and long contract- usually 2-3.
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Also, a straight up trade of Eovaldi for Odor would save us about $9M a year. Add that to the money we were planning on spending for pitchers and the upgrade could work out. If Eovaldi keeps getting hurt, we lose nothing.
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Look at my suggested Rangers offer: Eovaldi, Vaz & Chavis for Odor -26, LeClerc 16.8, Taveras 12.6 & Hernandez C-1B minors
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Vaz is quality, and maybe someone likes and needs a guy like Chavis. (See some deals I found that are 3 for 3 type deals that take on some negative salary and give back something of value.) Eovaldi has value, but it's just his contract that scares away teams. If we take some salary back, that cancels out that drag.
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These teams have the lowest catcher WAR 2019-2020 combined: (Vaz, Chavis & Eovaldi are valued at 13.1- here is close to equal value) -3.9 TEX (Odor -26, LeClerc 16.8, Taveras 12.6 & Hernandez C-1B minors) -3.5 DET (Zimmerman -4.5, Boyd 5.7 & Goodrum 12.0)) -2.6 COL (Blackmon -11.6, Freeland 16.8 & Amador 2B minors 7.6) 0.4 LAA (Upton -47, Canning 17.8 & Marsh OF minors 36.0) 0.4 BAL 0.5 PIT 0.7 NYM (Syndergaard, Familia & Greene OF minors) 0.9 STL (Fowler -19.8, Gallegos 26 & Reyes 5.3) 1.3 WSH (Castro -2.2, Rainey 10.7 or Suero 9.9 & de la Rosa OF minors 2.6) 1.7 TOR 1.8 TBR (Kiermaier -6.5 & Baz +19.5) , KC & MIA
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Nobody is saying to swear by them.
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Trade Values rates this as a moderate overpy by the Sox: Eovaldi, Chavez & Vaz for' Syndergaard, Familia and Greene (OF in minors)
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My point was that people here seem to think trading Eovaldi is nuts, but when we speak of his value to other teams, he's worthless (actually negative). Same thing with Price. Many hated that we traded him away and paid half his salary... like he's worth $15M a year (about what Eovaldi is being paid).
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How about when you add Chavis?
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Also, according to some, here, Eovaldi is the second coming of David Price, who was someone not worth trading away.
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I'm not saying we'll get an ace. We'll get someone about the value of Vazquez better. Many teams need a catcher. Some teams have a surplus of pitching. It's not going to be easy, but if someone really wants Vaz, they would give someone better than Eovaldi. Also, I only mentioned Eovaldi in passing. We could trade Vaz and Chavis for a pitcher and keep Eovaldi. I mentioned Eovaldi as a possible way to lessen the financial hit signing Realmuto would be. I'm not even sure I want Realmuto.
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Dalbec, JBJ & Chavis are 8 for 11 with 8 runs, 7 RBIs and 3 HRs!
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Umm, because of Vazquez. Whatever value he has, you add to Eovaldi's value and get a pitcher with that total value. (We could even add someone like Chavis.) If the pitcher we get is paid as much as Eovaldi, then the money part is taken out of the equation. Why do you think Eovaldi+ Vaz= Eovaldi's equal?
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He's up to .275, now. Dalbec's 7th HR is unexpected, too.
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The Yanks are Houck, lined and sinkered!
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Captain Houck!
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I would not base our OF plans on Duran playing at all on the big club in 2021. If ends up earning a shot, great, but if we want to win in 2021, we need at add 2 Of'ers to our roster: CF and 4th OF'er.
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I certainly felt a lot better about Price, before we signed him, than I do about Bauer, now. It's not easy to make these kinds of calls. Signing Scherzer would have been a great signing. Price will end up costing us over $100M for basically 2 good years- not even close to his best two seasons.
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Maybe since it's new management (not new ownership), he could let bygones be bygones. I'm not sure looking to sign ageing vets makes sense to a long term rebuild. Short deals, okay, but Lester may be looking for 3-4 years.
