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To those who love small sample sizes... K% Leaders 64% Wong (11 PAs) 43% Duran (7) 38% Chavis (63) 37% Dalbec (266) 36% Cordero (102) 30% Arauz (10) 25% Marwin (246) 24% Arroyo (70) 24% Santana (104) 24% Devers (380) 24% League Average (Our lowest is 14% by Verdugo.)

With Vaz's tenure almost up, I think we do. He's doing well, this year and Wong is no sure bet.

Agreed, but some Sox fans were pissed we lost him.

We won't keep Vaz, Plawecki, Wong and R Hernandez on the 40, so I agree. Keep Vaz and the younger guys.

With all the weak areas you mentioned, we'd have to trade away a bunch of promising prospects to fill even half of them. I'm certain we are not going all in, this deadline- as in trying to win it all by trading away the future. I doubt we even play it "halfway." We might make a couple low-key deals like in 2018, but I doubt we trade anyone Bloom thinks is very promising. (I'm not sure many felt Beeks was all that promising.) I like our chances, this year, but I like them more in 2022 and beyond. That's where I think Bloom's priorities are, too.

Yes. Like the guys we lost getting Eovaldi (Beeks) & Pearce (Espinal) in 2018.

I'm not sure how big "the crunch" is. If we only sign 3 FAs, it's hardly one, at all. If we sign 4-6, maybe 1-2 players may be lost to Rule 5. It also depends on how much Bloom values some players currently on the 40 man roster, but appear to be bubble ML'ers. There are also some options and arbs that may not be taken. Also, the possible JD opt-out, but one has to think, if he bolts, we replace his roster spot with another added FA. Here is the solid core of 25 keepers Devers Bogey Sale Eovaldi Pivetta Whitlock Houck Renfroe Kike Vaz (option accepted) Taylor DHern Arroyo Duran Verdugo Dalbec Cordero Sawamura Seabold Mata R Hernandez Groome Bazardo (perhaps a bubble player) Valdez (perhaps a bubble player) Brasier (perhaps a bubble player) JD opt out? (26th man or replaced by FA) Options taken or not? Richards (not likely) M Perez (maybe) Andriese (I hope not) (Maybe we're at 27 with Perez option) Bubble or gone: Arauz Chavis Wilson Rios Plawecki or Wong Potts Rosario (I guess we keep 1 catcher, Rosario, Potts and maybe Wilson- that makes 30-31) FAs lost, resigned or replaced ERod Ottavino Marwin Santana Workman (We should sign 3-6 FAs- making the number between 33-37- most likely 34-35.) That leaves 5-6 for Rule 5. It does not look like a big crunch, but maybe Bloom likes some of the guys I brushed off. Rule 5 Winter 2021: (I deleted most no chance players.) Brayan Bello Cole Brannen Pedro Castellanos Kole Cottam Kutter Crawford Tyler Dearden Jeter Downs Durbin Feltman Frank German Devlin Granberg Gilberto Jimenez Kaleb Ort Yusniel Padron-Artiles AJ Politi Tyreque Reed Victor Santos Alex Scherff John Schreiber Thaddeus Ward Josh Winckowski

Gotta sign 'em first.

Woo rained out, but the Sea Dogs continue to win. 15-4, yesterday. Winckowski went 5 with 2 ERs (4.04 ERA) 19 hits + 5 BBs 4-6 Granberg HR 3-5 T Reed, BB 3-5 Potts, HR 3-6 Castellons, HR, 2B 2-3 R Hernandez, 2B, BB 2-4 Rosario HR, BB Howlett hit his 11th HR for Greenville.

Just 70, once, but he did lead the league 3 times. Of course, OPS does not capture SB value, but it also does not capture CS'ing and running into outs, sometimes blunderingly so. Certainly, his value, especially when he became a plus defender was higher than these OPS charts show, but I still think it's shocking how so many Sox fans would have paid near what the Yanks paid for Jacoby to return. I think some remember him being a better hitter than he really was- based on one huge season.

Of course, losing 3 series in a row sucks, but we all should have known the path to winning a playoff slot was probably going to involve a rough patch or two. We need to remember that other teams have had or are going through rough patches recently, too. All AL teams have serious weaknesses. Some may make major moves at the deadline, while we may be relying only on rolling the dice with Sale. I'm sure we will hear much frustration from some posters, here, as the win now mentality takes hold. I'm glad Bloom is at the helm. I plan on being a live for a few more years and like the longer term priorities very much.

The only way I see us trading for a rental is by Bloom giving up someone he knows or is almost certain won't be part of the team's longer term plans. I'm sure he wants to keep as many options open as possible, but there will be a slight roster squeezes this winter with free agent signings and Rule 5 prospects added to the 40. Now, how good are the players he think might not make next year's team? Maybe not good enough to bring anything useful back, but who knows? Trading for someone with multiple years of control left, usually means giving up good prospects, unless it's a salary dump. Could be an interesting or very uneventful trade deadline for the Sox.

I still think we are better than the Rays and A's. It's hard to tell with the White Sox. The Astros look better on paper than any AL team, but their pen is a mess. If we finish behind the Yanks and/or Jays, then we were never as good as we became convinced we were, and nothing short of a couple major deals could change that. Is that something this team should really do? Is this the time to pull out the stops and mortgage some of our future? The way some "fans" are talking, and I use the term loosely, we'll need some major trades to turn around this season.

Then, go be a Yankmee fan.

Will you please stop? I understand being pissed at Dalbec and wanting him gone, but saying "DFA" a guy who has decent trade value is either gross and continued hyperbole that is getting tired and old or a sign of you having no idea how roster moves and changes are made. If we DFA'd every player you wanted us to, and got nothing in return, we'd suck, right now.

Good and great teams sometimes lose to bad teams. We lost to the Rangers and then turned it around. I'm confident the team is better than this. How much better and is that "better" good enough is about to become known.

I think he could have ran faster initially, so he could have slowed near the wall, but it is often hard for TV viewers to judge what Dalbec was thinking. He may have gotten a poor initial read on where the ball was going. That, too, can be blamed on him, but at least it is not an impingement on his character.

I'm a fan of speed as anyone else, but to me Ellsbury was hurt too much, and when he played, he had one great year and the rest were meh, in terms of how he compared to other Sox batters: 2008: .958 Youk .927 Drew .926 Manny .897 JBay (211 PAs) .877 Papi .869 Pedey .798 Lowell .773 Casey (218 PAs) ,751 Crisp .739 Lowrie .729 Ellsbury .685 Lugo .672 VTek 2009 .961 Youk .921 JBay .914 Drew .912 VMart (237PAs) .819 Pedey .811 Lowell .794 Papi .770 Ellsbury .703 VTek .669 N Green 2010 .975 Youk .919 Beltre .907 Lowrie (197 PAs) .899 Papi .860 Pedey .844 VMart .793 Drew .772 BHall .766 DMac .721 Scutaro .674 Lowell (244) .485 Ellsbury in 84 PAs 2011 (The Big Year) .957 AGon .953 Papi .928 Ellsbury .861 Pedey .833 Youk 2012 1.026 Papi .835 Middy (286 PAs) .812 AGon .807 C Ross .798 Shoppach .797 Pedey .785 Crawford (125) .742 Salty .742 Nava .705 Ciriaco (272) .692 Youk (165) .682 Ellsbury .663 Aviles 2013 .959 Papi .885 Carp(243) .842 Napolli .831 Nava .804 Salty .801 Vic .787 Pedey .785 Iggy (234) .781 Ellsbury .777 Drew .771 Gomes .696 Middy Signed with Yanks. I never saw why all the hooplah.

or his sense of humor.

Wasn't one injury a collision?

This could be the starters up to the trade deadline: 19 @TOR Pivetta 20 @TOR Richards (Houck?) 21 @TOR ERod 22 NYY Eovaldi 23 NYY Perez 24 NYY Pivetta 25 NYY Richards 26 TOR ERod 27 TOR Eovaldi 28 TOR Perez 29 TOR Pivetta deadline occurs right before we play 3@TBR, 3@DET & 3@TOR.

Kike had played 1B 89 innings. Arroyo looked very good at 2B and Kike in CF. I'm still not sure they shifted so many guys around.

This team is not this bad. The scary thing is, maybe we weren't as good as we looked earlier. It's time to beat the Jays and beat them badly. They look hot, but they have several weaknesses. Our rotation should line up well vs them, and they just played 2, today.

Perez has been very good for 61 pitches many times.

I was thrilled when the Yanks signed Ellsbury. Back then, I said I would not have paid him half that contract. I don’t want to ever think that way about Duran, nor do I expect to.