moonslav59

I hope the series ends tomorrow. I still have not watched the series closely.

Nostalgia for times before our birth usually puzzles me.

I would think Bloom will likely be told to try and stay under or near $210M but not as forcibly as this season. (Remember how they said staying under was not a high priority, last winter? Yea, right.) $7M offers pretty good flexibility, but who do we get as our FT catcher? At what cost?

His D has slipped a bit, but he's still a plus in my book. I'd try to bring him back, unless they have eyes on something big (Baez or Semien.)

You are likely right on Ronaldo, but I can't see us carrying 4 catchers, again, despite Vaz being in his last season of control. I think we trade Vaz or non-tender Plawecki. If we keep vaz, we may sign someone like Pina as a back-up or go with Wong/Hernandez as the back-up to Vazz.

Some BTV adjusted values... Sale is now a plus (1.0) Plawecki is at 0.5 Renfroe 0.4 Brasier 0.3 Araus 0.2 Sawamura -1.8 Barnes -4.9 JD -9.6 (basically saying we'd have to pay $9M to give him away.) Houck is up to 42.7 (just below Mayer at 42.8) Duran held at 23.1 (maybe they haven't adjusted him, yet) Whitlock up to 21.1 Downs still at 11.8 (see Duran comment) Jimenez 10.8 (Rule 5 protectee or not?) Kike's value shot up to 10.6 Pivetta 4.9 Bello 4.8 Jordan 4.5 Groome 4.3 Seabold 3.5 I think others stayed about the same. Vaz is 1.6 which suggests he's worth paying the $7M option and then some.

Even if he ends up hitting like Marwin, he's a better fielder.

I don't think any of those 3 are even "bubble non tenders," which this article categorized for some teams but not the Sox. My "bubble non tender" list is: R Hernandez or Plawecki Non tender/ DFA/ Trade: Rosario Potts

Good summary of the major points, this winter. I like the idea of Iggy as our utility IF'er.

BTV lists some possible non tenders... Angels: Non-tender candidates: Phil Gosselin, Jimmy Herget, Sam Selman, Chad Wallach, Keon Wong Non-tender bubble case: Luis Rengifo Astros: Non-tender candidates: Brandon Bielak, Kent Emmanuel, Taylor Jones, Rafael Montero, Enoli Paredes, Blake Taylor Non-tender bubble case: Aledmys Diaz Note: Even though Diaz’s contract ran only through 2021, he actually has one more year of arbitration eligibility. Athletics: Option declines: Andrew Chafin, Jake Diekman Non-tender candidates: Austin Allen, Paul Blackburn, Skye Bolt, Adam Kolarek, Vimael Machin Non-tender bubble case: Lou Trivino Note: With the A’s expected to go into full rebuild mode, they may decide to keep some of these players because they’ll need to field a team. They’re all cheap enough. Blue Jays: Non-tender candidates: Anthony Castro, Ross Stripling, Trent Thornton Non-tender bubble case: Ryan Borucki Braves: Option decline: Josh Tomlin Non-tender candidates: Orlando Arcia, Johan Camargo, Grant Dayton, Adam Duvall, Terrance Gore, Guillermo Heredia, Yoan Lopez, Sean Newcomb, Touki Toussaint, Chadwick Tromp, Jacob Webb, Kyle Wright Brewers: Non-tender candidates: Jandel Gustave, Keston Hiura, Luke Maile, Hoby Milner, Angel Perdomo, Pablo Reyes, Miguel Sanchez, Eric Yardley Non-tender bubble cases: Dan Vogelbach, John Curtiss Note: Hiura does not appear to have any trade value left, so if the Brewers decide to move on from him, he’ll likely be a free agent. Cardinals: Option declines: Matt Carpenter, Carlos Martinez Non-tender candidates: Austin Dean, Junior Fernandez, Andrew Knizner, Max Moroff, Ljay Newsome, Alex Reyes, Brandon Waddell, Jake Woodford, Justin Williams, T.J. Zeuch Non-tender bubble case: Ryan Helsley Note: Alex Reyes is the surprise here. His projections simply don’t meet his arbitration estimate. Cubs: Non-tender candidates: Jason Adam, Sergio Alcantara, Rex Brothers, P.J. Higgins, Jonathan Holder, Dillon Maples, Nick Martini, Manuel Rodriguez, Adrian Sampson, Kohl Stewart, Trayce Thompson, Brad Wieck Diamondbacks: Option declines: Kole Calhoun, Tyler Clippard Non-tender candidates: Zach Burdi, Brett de Geus, Kevin Ginkel, Matt Peacock, Sean Poppen, Caleb Smith, Riley Smith, Josh VanMeter, Jordan Weems, Taylor Widener, Andrew Young Dodgers: Option decline: Joe Kelly Non-tender candidates: Scott Alexander, Andy Burns, Garrett Cleavinger, Billy McKinney, Sheldon Neuse, Evan Phillips, Luke Raley, Jimmie Sherfy, Stephen Souza Jr., Brock Stewart Non-tender bubble cases: Austin Barnes, Cody Bellinger Note: It would appear that Bellinger has done just enough in the post-season to climb just over the line. Keep in mind that he’s still viewed as a high-upside player — our model projects him to be worth $17M in field value — but he’s very expensive, with an arb price of $16M. So while we think the Dodgers will retain him, it’s not an easy call. Giants: Option decline: Johnny Cueto Non-tender candidates: Tyler Beede, Curt Casali, Jaylin Davis, Alex Dickerson, Mauricio Dubon, Jason Vosler Guardians: Option decline: Roberto Perez Non-tender candidates: Logan Allen, Daniel Johnson, J.C. Mejia, Josh Naylor, Trevor Stephan, Nick Wittgren, Alex Young, Bradley Zimmer Non-tender bubble cases: Bobby Bradley, Yu Chang, Austin Hedges, Oscar Mercado Note: The Guardians are facing a roster crunch, with multiple top prospects needing to be protected, so we expect a lot of activity here. Mariners: Option decline: Kyle Seager [option decline reported 10/31] Non-tender candidates: Joey Gerber, Jose Godoy, Erik Swanson, Donovan Walton Non-tender bubble cases: Nick Margevicius, Yohan Ramirez, Luis Torrens Marlins: Non-tender candidates: Jesus Aguilar, Jorge Alfaro, Lewis Brinson, Paul Campbell, Daniel Castano, Isan Diaz, Jordan Holloway, Steven Okert, Magneuris Sierra Non-tender bubble cases: Monte Harrison, Jorge Guzman Note: Sadly for Miami, the Christian Yelich trade was a complete bust, as Brinson, Diaz, Harrison and (since DFA’d) Yamamoto all have zero value. Mets: Option declines: Dellin Betances, Kevin Pillar Non-tender candidates: Miguel Castro, Yennsy Diaz, Robert Gsellman, Corey Oswalt [outrighted 10/29], Mark Payton, Jose Peraza [outrighted 10/29], Sean Reid-Foley, Drew Smith, Robert Stock [outrighted 10/29], Trevor Williams, Jordan Yamamoto Nationals: Non-tender candidates: Josh Bell, Sam Clay, Mike Ford, Ryne Harper, Andres Machado, Victor Robles, Josh Rogers, Andrew Stevenson, Wander Suero, Austin Voth Non-tender bubble cases: Joe Ross, Tanner Rainey Notes: Bell is just getting too expensive relative to his production. Robles’ fielding prowess is not enough to make up for his continued poor hitting, and we believe the Nats will move on from both. Orioles: Non-tender candidates: Nick Ciuffo, Marcos Diplan, Conner Greene, Kelvin Gutierrez, Eric Hanhold, Hunter Harvey, Brooks Kriske, Richie Martin, Pedro Severino, Spenser Watkins Non-tender bubble case: Jorge Lopez Padres: Option decline: Jake Marisnick Non-tender candidates: Dan Altavilla, Shaun Anderson, Miguel Diaz [outrighted 10/30], James Norwood, Brian O’Grady [outrighted 10/30], Emilio Pagan, Matt Strahm, Trey Wingenter Notes: Both Pagan and Strahm (the latter due to health issues) have declined dramatically of late. Phillies: Option declines: Odubel Herrera, Andrew McCutchen Non-tender candidates: Travis Jankowski, Andrew Knapp, Jojo Romero, Ramon Rosso, Ronald Torreyes Non-tender bubble cases: Adam Haseley, Mickey Moniak Pirates: Non-tender candidates: Anthony Alford, Tanner Anderson, Anthony Banda, Michael Chavis, Wil Crowe, Enyel De Los Santos, Wilmer Difo, Phillip Evans, Sam Howard, Kyle Keller, Chad Kuhl, Nick Mears, Colin Moran, Kevin Newman, Luis Oviedo, Michael Perez, Cody Ponce, Cole Tucker, Duane Underwood, Jr. Non-tender bubble case: Jared Oliva, Dillon Peters Note: It looks like it’s time for the Pirates to move on from Tucker. Rangers: Non-tender candidates: Drew Anderson [released 10/29], Wes Benjamin, Brock Burke, Willie Calhoun, Jharel Cotton, Demarcus Evans, Ronald Guzman, Dennis Santana Non-tender bubble case: Joe Palumbo Rays: Non-tender candidates: Nick Anderson, D.J. Johnson, Cody Reed, Ryan Sherriff, Jeffrey Springs Note: It’s a testament to the Rays’ value-conscious philosophy that they have so few players who project to have negative or zero value. That said, they too have a roster crunch coming, so they’ll be active in the trade market beyond these cuts. Red Sox: Option declines: Martin Perez, Garrett Richards Player option decline: Kyle Schwarber Non-tender candidates: Austin Davis, Darwinzon Hernandez, John Schreiber, Phillips Valdez Reds: Option declines: Tucker Barnhart Option decline bubble case: Wade Miley Player option decline: Nick Castellanos Non-tender candidates: Aristides Aquino, Alex Blandino, Phillip Diehl, Carson Fulmer, Amir Garrett, Ryan Hendrix, Jeff Hoffman, Cionel Perez Rockies: Non-tender candidates: Daniel Bard, Carlos Estevez, Ashton Goudeau, Garrett Hampson, Raimel Tapia, Jesus Tinoco Non-tender bubble case: Robert Stephenson Note: Bard declined significantly in the second half of 2021, and he’s just getting too expensive. Tapia is out of options. Royals: Non-tender candidates: Hanser Alberto [outrighted 10/29], Richard Lovelady, Ryan O’Hearn, Emmanuel Rivera, Tyler Zuber Non-tender bubble case: Jakob Junis Tigers: Non-tender candidates: Bryan Garcia, Rony Garcia, Grayson Greiner, Drew Hutchison, Joe Jimenez Non-tender bubble case: Niko Goodrum Twins: Option decline: Alex Colome Non-tender candidates: Willians Astudillo, Jake Cave, John Gant, Kyle Garlick, Juan Minaya, Rob Refsnyder, Devin Smeltzer, Lewis Thorpe Non-tender bubble case: Cody Stashak White Sox: Option decline bubble cases: Cesar Hernandez, Craig Kimbrel Non-tender candidates: Ryan Burr, Zack Collins, Jimmy Cordero, Jace Fry, Brian Goodwin, Marco Hernandez, Reynaldo Lopez, Evan Marshall, Jose Ruiz Notes: It’s been reported that the White Sox are considering non-tendering Hernandez, whose WAR numbers might suggest otherwise. But most of that value comes from defense, and teams just don’t value 2B gloves anymore. Meanwhile, they reportedly want to tender and trade Kimbrel, whose value is barely above water, according to our model. Yankees: Option decline: Darren O’Day Option decline bubble case: Brett Gardner Non-tender candidates: Albert Abreu, Greg Allen, Miguel Andujar, Clint Frazier, Tim Locastro, Nick Nelson, Rougned Odor, Wandy Peralta, Gary Sanchez, Andrew Velazquez Notes: It seems like this is the year the Yankees are finally going to move on from Andujar, Frazier, and Sanchez. None have trade value, according to our model. Sanchez, of course, has field value, but he’s just getting too expensive, even for the Yankees — he’s a $7M player due to make $8M. Odor is only owed league-minimum (the Rangers are paying down his contract), but he’s not worth even that.

I'm sure there were a lot of fans not happy with "the direction of baseball" back in those days, too.

Raffy has good range and very good quickness. He needs some work on his footing and throws, but he's still young. I don't see this "stiffness" people say about Dalbec. He looked better and better as the year went on, but he is not yet even average. He did play 3B most of his career and was apparently decent, there, but I would not swap him and Devers. Maybe his learning curve is just long. With Casas in the wings, I think our corner IF'ers are not moving anywhere. Maybe Dalbec DHs some, once JD leaves. This assumes, he can hit well enough, going forward.

Apparently, Boras turned it down without asking VTek, but since Boras was "acting on VTek's authority," VTek turned down the offer.

Verdugo, for one (Schwarber/Duran in LF?).

Remember when VTek turned down a good offer and ended up with crap?

The Globe is total crap.

Yes, good point.

Or, you better sign one or be traded who-knows-where? Bogey's opt out made his extension not all that team friendly. Didn't he still have one arb year left? (I could be wrong.) We did extend Porcello, Eovaldi, Bogey and Sale in recent years.

I'm not for moving either of these guys to other positions, in the near future. I was just responding to the idea of moving Bogey to 1B and Devers to LF. I'm for extending Devers. I do not think Bogey would take my top extension honor.

If any major moves are to be made, I'd guess Devers to 1B, where the glove is way more important than the arm, and Bogey to 3B, where range is not as important.

I would not judge Renfroe's inability to hit "playoff caliber pitching" based on a dozen games, but I do think he might be replaced with a better defensive RF'er who can also hit.

Happy Halloween!

Where did I hint being afraid of trading Bogey?

Dalbec to DH in 2022? Casas at 1B?

Agreed, and although he had about $40M to spend, last year, he had 10 holes to fill not 3-4, like this winter. This winter may be the time we see the "real" Bloom.