moonslav59
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That may be the case, and I’ve said this deal looks better if we start spending more and more, but looking at the bargain basement pitchers we just signed, I have my doubts. -
Maybe you do. You can’t at least understand the point I’ve had to repeat 10 times. Agree to disagree but don’t act like you don’t know my position.
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After all this, you don’t know? I guess I will repeat it again: It’s about the money on a tight budget. That’s like 10 times, dude!
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I’ve already said this might be the case and everything changes. If we go over the tax line in2023, this deal looks better, to me, but still not a good one, unless the prospects do well.
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Where did I say that? I’ve repeated over and over why I think Bloom-made this deal. Do I need to again?.
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JBJs option would have to be decline for his salary not to count towards 2023. That’s an expensive buy out of $8M. That doesn’t count on the 2023 tax budget, but that’s more than any tax we might pay!
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I think at least one will be on theML roster by 2023.
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I’m not giving it a D- or F. I’m just surprised Red did not give him an F. I have said over and over it’s about the prospects. That is the value, plus an upgrade in D, which I have been screaming for. To me, the money aspect turns this into a head scratcher. I don’t think this was a good deal, but it might be one.
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Should we expect career norms at his age?
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Yes, but not for a back up OFer! Sign Suzuki and trade Renfroe for a cheaper or equal salary pitcher, and we still have $5M in AAV to spend on 2B or the pen.
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ERod? The money spent on JBJ adds a year on our offer for him, right? The AVV argument is even more solid, if you don’t look long term. Wacha + JBJ = ERod. ?
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Exactly my point.
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Which in a way just adds to the cost of the JBJ trade.
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No doubt, but Bloom also has a history of trading decent to very good players got prospects not generally thought of as sure fire MLers, but who ended up being very good ML players. I do think he expects more from these two prospects than we do. I get that his strategy is to add prospects to the pool in hopes a few come through, but I don’t think he equated these two to Frank German.
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I agree. It’s actually $12M AAVx2 years or $12M AAV for 1 year but an actual $17.5M cost for one year counting the buyout. I know overlooking the long term aspect of signing a better SPer is a big part of any comparative analysis, but adding $12M to the cost of Wacha and of Hill and Paxton gets us a very nice starter.
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Having to make another deal to fix losing Renfroe adds even more cost to the overall impact of this trade.
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So we trade our FT RFer who may be due for a decline to the point where he might be a zero WAR player making $7M for a part time OFer making $12M x 2 of $17.5m x 1 in hopes he bounced back. To Me, Bloom liked the prospects more than anyone I see on this site.
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I’m not trying to make you scratch your head like you seem to be trying to make me stop scratching mine if turn me into a Bloom basher. I get why many of you are fine with this deal. Some don’t seem to care about the money aspect and some think bounce back or bounce down by Renfroe are more likely than I do. I get it.
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His AAV is $12M. He has an $8M buyout for 2023 or another $12M to stay. It’s basically a $12M x 2 deal or $17.5M for 1. To me, that’s a boatload of money that could have upgraded a Wacha and of Hill or could be used to sign a very good IFer of RPer or two decent players. No, it’s not a$300M deal but $17.5 to $24M is a lot of money on a tight budget team. Hello .
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I’m surprised you gave him a D not an F-.
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I can see why he and others are not scratching their heads, but I still do not Like this one move. Another factor might be that we will spend over the tax line, so the money aspect is lessened. I’m going on the assumption that we are trying to stick to a strict budget under or near the tax line. If we end up signing Story or Suzuki, then the whole budget aspect of my position will change. I’m not sure why My head scratching over one deal seems to bother you so much.
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I think he believes one will.
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Why ignore 2015? He had more PAs in 2015 than the 2020 season uou want to turn into 162 games, right? His WAR declined, too.
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You can trust someone knows more than you do and still scratch your head. You don’t have to agree with everything someone does to trust them.
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A RPer plus a boatload of money to sign another player or two of upgrade a singing. I don’t get why many seem to overlook the money. We seem to have a finite budget, so adding salary in one trade means less spending on other moves,
