moonslav59

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Here are the free agents to be with their prorated contract amounts (1/3 actual 2021 salary): $7.3M JD $6.7M Bogey $5.7M Eovaldi $4.0M JBJ (option for '23) $2.5M Kike $2.3M Wacha $1.7M Hill $1.0M Strahm $750K Robles $750K Plawecki Barnes might be tarded, if anyone wants him. ($2.8M + $8,4M '23) Diekman is owed $3M in '23 with $1M buyout for '24.

Agreed, and if they can't sign Devers, they can spread out the misery by trading him this winter or the next deadline.

Even if we get to .500, odds are we have a fire sale.

He barely cancelled out Punto! The salary releif worked wonders.

Kelly is having a real hard time at AAA. Why should he do better in the bigs? Sub Seabold for Kelly.

Not enough to make me pine for keeping him, and the biggest reason for the deal was to shed CC and Beckett's contracts. It was a good choice "letting him go." We won a ring, afterwards, thanks partly to the money freed up by that trade.

No more Zach Kelly peddling?

...and even if you think he has a big say in what the Rays, did, they had severe financial limits, so judging by the "Ray's Way," is futile. Now, do I think we hired him to try and find some low cost gems? Yes, but that does not mean that's all we hired him for.

Just like your troll friends. Got it.

Why assume I think there are not others. I actually like the idea, too. I think Houck should have been tried, first, but I've agreed on one of them being tried as the closer since opening day. Again, I don't want to, need to or care to hear talk show yappers.

Just because he was with the Rays for all those years, doesn't mean he doesn't like Shiny objects. He did sign Story. When did the Rays ever do that?

I'd call up Fitzy before Arauz. I see nothing in Arauz.

I remember thinking AGon would hit 50 Hrs with Fenway as his home park.

It's not just what other fans are reporting. You've been on the Whitlock as closer bandwagon for months. Stop hiding behind others who agree.

Maybe. He was also being paid like an .875 hitter.

Is that a plan? LOL

I've never said my opinions, ideas or plans are better than others, but at least I offer my ideas and possible alternative plans, whether I like them or not, instead of bashing anything and everything like you and others do, often in hindsight, but not always. I have no problem with- my or your opinions being in the minority. I don't even care about that like you seem to do. I could care less what the majority of talk show callers are saying about Bloom. Are they supposed to represent the majority of Sox fans, and does the majority really know what may or may not be right for the success of the Sox- both now and in the long term? Sure, it might matter for the amount of season ticket purchases, to some degree, I guess. I also said I'm fine with you not having or stating a plan, only that your criticisms ring hollow to me, when you do that. I could care less if it rings hollow to others. You seem to have Swi and a bunch of trolls on your side, so good for you! Enjoy your fame. It's my opinion that statements like "cut our blown saves in half," and making claims about how many more wins we'd have by moving Whitlock to closer without addressing who takes Whitlocks role, and how many losses that may lead to rings hollow, because it is hollow. You want us to magically better support our stars with solid teammates, but not to pay anyone large and long, while at the same time wishing we'd give Duran, a guy you think will fail in the igs, a shot at playing more. That's about the extent of your ideas- scattered, contradictory and aimless- kinda like hollow.

We still have a lot of season to go. We will have so many open roster slots due to free agents, I'm not sure it will come down to having to choose between Downs, Fitzy and Arroyo. I would keep Arroyo over Arauz. I see a few guys on the 40 man roster I'd DFA before Arroyo, too. I do still have some hope that Arroyo can hit over .750 going forward. He's not a bad fielder at certain positions. That being said, if we DFA him, I won't blink an eye.

Pedro had one good year for the Mets and then had 240 IP over the next 3 years, combined. Agon had a .793 OPS with the Dodgers over 5.5 years. At that contract, he was not even close to being worth it. He did have 3 decent years, but the last 3 were a big drain. Damon did do well with the Yanks, but I think we did better with... LF: Manny/Bay CF: Crisp/Ellsbury RF: JD Drew DH: Papi I'm not sure paying Damon what he got would have been worth it.

...and the listeners of the lowest of the lows?

Hell, people are still pissed about letting Adrian Beltre walk, and we only had one season to get attached to him. Overall, since Henry took over the reigns, we've done a pretty good job knowing when to say good bye. Nomar Pedro Damon Beckett, CC and AGon Ellsbury Sure, some went on to great things, but we've done okay in this area. The Betts choice is still in limbo. The Bogey choice seems to have already been made. I think Devers might e 50-50, at best.

We lost most of our games long before the 9th inning, so far this year. We're 23-3 when leading to start the 9th. Sure, a great closer would have helped us win a few more. Maybe the guys we used as closers would have done much better in set-up roles. Maybe not. Who do we not sign, if we had signed an elite closer? Who do we start and use in long relief, if we moved Whitlock to closer, and how well would that guy have done? It's not a simple equation. There are many moving parts to a team.

So, it's all about majority of talk show callers and water cooler banter? I call it disdain for prospects. Even now, you single out Downs. It's obvious. It's my opinion. I'm glad you have the support of all the others, and nobody ever criticizes your opinions at the coolers. King Cooler should be your nickname. IMO, when you criticize everything, even contradictory positions without adding any ideas, it's hollow.

I think one ring, within a reasonable time frame, would help fans get over the loss. I doubt we deal Devers this deadline, and maybe not until next deadline. The story signing sealed Bogey's fate, IMO. It will be interesting to see what we get for him, but it might not be what we hope. This winter will be extremely interesting, especially if we have a summer fire sale.