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Me, too, but this is the way of sports, nowadays. The worst part is making the Braves our "natural rivalry." Only the Jay and Phillies seems like such a deep stretch.
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Pluses and minuses: I Negative: JBJ trade Diekman signing (turned into a plus by dumping his contract and acquiring McGuire for multiple years) Vaz (but adding prospects and Mcguire negates the loss) OK: Hill ??? Story Hosmer (free) Prospects Added via trades since the end of 2021: EValdez, WAbreu, MFerguson, ABinelas, DHamilton, C Rosier Good: Strahm Pham Great: Wacha Schreiber Refsnyder McGuire (doing better than Vaz, so far) Yet, it's Bloom's fault the team got worse.
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Not thinking an easier schedule helps makes no sense. Yes, the other 4 ALE teams also get easier schedules, but the rest of the AL gets harder, and the WC slots go to the best 3 records in the AL. OKay, I get teh theory that we still have to pass an ALE team to make it, and they all get easier schedules, too, but I'll take getting easier schedule over 10 other teams vs 4 as a good thing.
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I forgot to rank him. Yes, "Good"
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Let's hope his skillset translates to the bigs. Bobby D had a great OBP on the farm ,too. There is such a long list of failed Sox 1Bmen from the farm.
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I don't disagree, but he was playing against a very good defense, last night. Certainly not like Joe Montana from my days at ND.
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Koji wasn't very good after 2013? He wasn't like 2013 Koji, but neither was Mo. 0.917 WHIP in 2014 and 2015 was very good., Amazingly, he had a WHIP below 0.995 for 7 straight seasons (2010-2016.) Not all for the Sox, though.
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How would you use Whitlock next year?
moonslav59 replied to Bellhorn04's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I don't think Barnes is going anywhere. You think Houck's back surgery will not be serious? -
How would you use Whitlock next year?
moonslav59 replied to Bellhorn04's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
So, is he saying RP'ers are up and down and unreliable?t -
The 2022 plan looked ab out the same as 2021, to me. The 2021 pen overachieved and this one underachieved. If we didn't have to use Whitlock and Houck as SP'ers, I think the 2022 pen would have been pretty close to 2021. Plus, Barnes gave us nothing, this year. Although I did not expect early 2021 from Barnes, I didn't expect 3 months on the IL and mediocrity when pitching. I also did not expect Taylor to miss the whole year. I was never high on Diekman, but even he fell way below expectations. Just my take.
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I think they will pick one for 2023 and stick to it. My guess is he will start, but with Houck's surgery, maybe it's closer to 50-50, now. If we offer a QO to Wacha and make Whitlock a SP'er, maybe we can get by without trading Casas for a starter- or spending way too much for a questionable starter like deGrom or Kershaw. Spend on 3 solid tier 2 RP'ers and concentrate on filling all the everyday player holes open for 2023..
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I think the vast majority of everyday players are more predictable than the vast majority of RP'ers, even though the RP role has advanced from days past.
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Like the Nats in 2019? Not modern enough? The 2018 Sox pen ended up being a complete joke.
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True, but it has to help us to play less vs the ALE. With 3 WC teams, we may just need to pass 1 ALE team, next year to make the playoffs.
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Sign one of those 3 and maybe bring Strahm back. Not sure that's enough, but it's better than Diekman & Strahm. We may need to replace Houck.
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I'm fine with signing a second tier guy like him or Fulmer, and I'm sure there are 3-4 others. That's one of the guys notin has been pushing. I wonder how much he will cost.
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You don't think playing less games vs the AL East is likely a very good thing? Can you elaborate on that? The AL East has 4 teams with 71 or more wins. The AL Central has none, and the Sox are 1-2 wins away from having as many as MN & CLE. The ALW has 2 teams over 58 wins. The NLE has 3 teams over 55 wins. The NLC has 2 over 56. The NLW has 2 teams above 63. The last place Sox would be... -3.5 in the ALC 3rd place in ALW 4th in NLE 3rd in NLC 3rd in NLW and that's before figuring in how many more wins we might have had we not had to play 4 teams with 71+ wins, so many times.
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You are singing to the choir. I don't want us to spend big on a closer, but with Houck now highly questionable, I do think we need and will add some RP'ers who may be converted to closer or use Whitlock as the 2023 closer/relief ace.
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9/03 Rangers @ SOX 4:10PM ET
moonslav59 replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
Without Houck, we have to find at least a third high leverage guy. We might already be burning Whitlock out, and Schreiber going multiple innings here and there may also be pushing him to the limit. Barnes looks like the best bet out of all the others. Sad, but true. We could try calling German up, but I trust there is a reason we have not, already. -
It's easy to say we need to get an established closer and really want it to happen, but we all know how hard and costly it is, and even if you do, it's still a roll of the dice, to some extent. There are no MO's anymore. That, in itself, is a big worry, but when you add to the fact that spending big on a closer means going lighter at another position or two of need, and it gets even scarier. It might mean settling on a DH like Brantley over a solid OF'er with OBP skills like Nimmo. It might mean settling on Arroyo at 2B and moving Story to SS, so we can afford a closer like Diaz. I think we try to trade for a solid set-up man or two, in hopes we can convert one to a closer. If it works, Bloom is a genius. If it doesn't work, we'll be hearing the same bashing of the pen plan, again. I just don't see us signing a closer. We might not even be willing to win a bidding war for Fulmer or other next tier RP'ers.
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I look at the other teams not named Alabama, Ohio St, Georgia and Clemson, and they all have similarities to ND. Every year, one of these top 4 teams lose 2 games, due mostly to their schedule and conference playoff games, especially the SEC, where GA v AL will likely mean one gets its 2nd loss. It's a free-for-all after the top 4 and ND has as good a chance as any, except they already have 1 loss. I'm actually encouraged at how well they played at OSU. They looked better than I expected.
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I know what the loss column means, and I mentioned how the loss column is more important. Your destiny becomes tied to another team's fate, which is not good, but CLE has 3 more games to play than us. I seriously doubt they win all 3. They can, or course, but the odds are, they won't.
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With Houck getting back surgery, Whitlock is probably the most crucial carry-over pitcher we have. How we choose to use him next year might be Bloom's biggest winter decision he makes, and that's saying a lot, because he has to fill at least 5 high-need slots in the 26 man roster. (He needs to do well on at least 3 or 4 of those 5 or 6 fill-in additions.)
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I would not pay for what Diaz and Jansen will be paid. I'm not aware of any on the trade market. It would mean we'd have to go light in CF, middle IF, SP and RF/1B/DH. I also don't think that is how Sox management views the closer role, either. I think we continue to try and find a closer, via trade, who might not even be one, now. We won't find another Uehara, but that is how we will try to find one, IMO- like it or not. Hopefully, we will do more than Diekman-Strahm type signings- like 3 a little better or 2 a lot better. I'm thinking that is the best we can hope for, and maybe, this time, Bloom will strike gold. Personally, I'd love to add a solid, "established" closer, but on a fixed budget, I can't see how we can fill all the other holes enough to keep us competitive. We'd just end up bitching about 1B, again, or CF, or 2B/SS or RF or DH or..., instead.
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He was probably on some sort of seasonal innings or pitch count, and that might have been why they yanked him back from starting. The idea seemed to be that next year would be the 170+ IP season, but now I'm not so sure.
