moonslav59

Musk is a huge Sox fan. Be careful what you wish for...

Not on D, as I assume the talk is about, but remember, as compared to 2022, Verdugo was within 100 innings of JBJ in RF. It's not like our RF was GG, this year. Innings in RF 526 JBJ (very good) 432 Dugo (meh) 163 Ref (OK) 124 Cordero (Ughhh- 108 Arroyo -Leee) 46 Duran (Horrific) 24 Ja Davis & 8 Almonte Over half the innings were from Dugo, Cordero, Arroyo, Duran, Davis and Almonte. We aren't even sure we're done adding to the OF. (Gallo is better than Dugo.)

I'd hide, too. There is probably a bounty on his head.

What would Kluber, Andrus and Conforto or gallo cost, in total? My guess is maybe $14M, $10M and $12M or about $36-38M. 1. L Yoshida LF/DH 2. R Kike CF 3. L Devers 3B 4. R Story 2B 5. L Casas 1B 6. L Conforto/Gallo RF 7. R Andrus SS 8. L Verdugo LF/DH/RF 9. L McGuire/ R Wong Bench: L Hosmer or R Dalbec (one gets traded), R Arroyo, R Refsnyder SP1: Sale & Paxton combined SP2: Whitlock SP3: Kluber SP4: Bello SP5: Pivetta SP6/LR: Crawford or Winkowski (the other starts in AAA) Closer: Jansen RP2: Martin RP3: Houck RP4: Schreiber RP5: Joely R. RP6: Barnes RP7: Brasier or Taylor (the other is traded) RP8: Kelly/Mata/German (Walter/Murphy or Wink/Seabold)

I Hope To HELL You Are Right!

No ML OF'er on the Sox is worse than Duran.

Hey, the guy had a 1.000 Flg%. COME ON!

Finally, you get it.

Master strawman builder hard at work.

The media lies, perhaps fed by BorA$$ should not really make us any angrier at the Sox than we would have been had no immanent big Sox-Bogey signing crap came out. The mood was a bit peepy after the Yoshida signing, when most of us felt Bogey was likely a goner, anyway. It was the teaser stories than cut our legs out from under us, and left us pissed off.

I agree. Andrus over the idea of Segura with Story at SS. I also want to keep Kike in CF, not SS.

I think the 2013 ring was fortunate. The others were examples of us building up to a point of being a top 2-3 contender and then adding a strategic piece or two to get us over the top. The Yanks get to the top 2-3 status, more often, but fail to pull the trigger and increase their odds. The 2018 team was not fortunate. Not only were we tops, we went and got Nate & Pearce. The comeback vs the Yanks in 2004 could be viewed as fortunate, but the 2003 loss kinda balanced that out. 2007 was won by getting Beckett and a few other key pieces (some at the deadline) and not sitting on our hands, like Cashman does when real close.

Certainly not a bad thing. They do spend enough to be top 6 or7, but would you trade their last 2 decades for their records and achievements with ours? My choice is super easy.

Personally, I think that analogy is way off. He's a MLB hitter forced to swing one-handed.

Oh, I notice.

Arroyo- 156 games!

That sounds an awful lot like a former politician's way out for spouting absurdities, "A lot of people are saying, ______."

Of course, if he murders someone, I'll be for him leaving, but unless Henry starts sending $150-190M a year on the budget, he's got my lifetime pass.

Gravity favors the sun.

The Yanks will not go to the levels of LAD, SDP and NYM, so these gross overpays and grossly long deal will bite them, someday. Maybe not 2-3 years, but it will, just like Cole, Stanton, DJ and Hicks and even their "great" pen arms, of late.

Not yet, for sure, and maybe not in 2023, as I had high hopes. Do you agree with these assessments? (Odds better than 50-50?) C: McGuire/Wong = Vaz & Plawecki 1B: Casas (Dalbec/Hosmer)>> Dalbec/Cordero 2B: Healthy Story> 2022 Story SS: ______ 3B: Prime Devers> 2022 Devers LF: Yoshida >>> Dugo/Pham/Duran/Cordero CF: Healthy Kike> 2022 Kike RF: Dugo/Refsnyder> JBJ, Duran/Cordero DH: Hosmer/Dalbec/Refsnyder/Arroyo I count 1 big bad and 2 bads I count one pretty big good and 5 goods Pitching Pen: Jansen, Martin, Houck, Schreiber, Barnes, Joely, Crawford, Kelly/German/Mata >>> Schreiber, Whitlock, Houck, Brasier, Davis, Sawamura, Strahm, Danish, Barnes, Diekman Rotation: Sale/Paxton, ______, Whitlock, Bello, Pivetta/Crawford/Winckowski/Seabold/Mata Pivetta, Wacha, Hill, Nate, Wink, Crawford/Bello/Whitlock/Seabold Granted, until we add a solid SP, the staff looks worse, but it's not as bad as it might seem. We lost about 500 IP of bad pitching along with the loss of good pitching, if you figure less IP from Crawford, Wink, Seabold, Brasier and a few others: 77 Crawford 5.47 70 Wink 5.89 62 Brasier 5.78 54 Davis 5.47 51 Sawamura 3.73 40 Danish 5.13 38 Diekman 4.23 28 Ort 6.35 25 Robles 5.84 18 Seabold 11.29 55+ from 8 players

Maybe slow and steady does win the race. I just hope it's not 2033.

200% hogwash

I'm thrilled. Say good bye to your budget in a couple or three years.

To me, what got old was the three decades of total frustration before 2004. No offense to you, I like your posts, but the act I'm seeing reeks of spoiled fans who think we are entitled to a ring every 4-6 years. The team has reset it's priorities. They have watched a team like the Astros win without having to pay huge contracts by having a strong and deep farm. Yes, they lock up some key homegrown talent earlier and pretty often, but they've let the same amount of super studs go- actually, their 4 best players: Correa, Springer, Cole and Verlander. Maybe Altuve can be called top 4... maybe. Here are their biggest contracts, right now: $163M/7 Altuve ('18-'24) Current BTV Value +$4.6M $100M/5 Bregman ('20-'24) -$2.8M $85M/5 McCullers ('22-'26) -$28.8M $59M/3 Abreu ('23-'24) -$6.2M It doesn't have to be about spending bigly on 3-5 players to win, and IMO, maybe not doing that increases the chances of winning. We just need to get the farm & foundation in place, first. It doesn't help doing it backwards.