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  1. I have no beef with him being above all these guys, and even Seabold is not someone I'd go to bat over. I think I'd prefer Seabold over Brasier due to age and options remaining, but the point you brought up about Sebold's stuff just not playing up to the ML level makes sense. It's pretty close between Ort and Brasier, and if we add a SS, we may see Ort go.
  2. I get it. I don't agree he is worth the arb process. I had Seabold above Ort (and others) due to his .656 OPS Against. Only Bello and Keller had a better OPS and more IP than he did, unless you count Wikelman (.623 in A-/A+) and Encarnacion (.642 in A-/A+). Seabold was at .646 in 2021- mostly at AAA (.667). (3rd best on Woo.)
  3. I'm not sure I'd call Whitlock one, either.
  4. I just don't get why he's worth even the min wage, let alone what he'll get in arb or in a pre-arb agreement.
  5. An economical response, indeed.
  6. A bit surprising, to me. It's not like I had a lot of faith in him, but he put up some real good numbers in the minors. I had Brasier and Ort higher on my DFA list.
  7. He seems to be very strategic about his largest and longest signings. They usually come right before a window looks to be opening, and when a big hole seems to be a major stumbling block. Only the Sale extension does not really fit that model, but one could argue Price's pending decline pointed towards the need to have a bonafide ace from 2020 to 2024. I think the Devers deal was needed to keep fans from an all out revolt... not that this is the only reason he was extended.
  8. How often do you not respond when someone incorrectly states your position?
  9. I gave this winter a D, but if we sign Andrus or trade for a decent SS, I'd maybe go to C-.
  10. From JH's perspective? Who knows? I doubt he was or is happy about the Price signing, because maybe we win a ring without him, and $217M for 1 rings blows the other equations away. The Sale extension looks bad. Look at the top 6 contracts: 1 ring- total. $217M/7 Price $154M/7 Agon $145M/5 Sale $142M/7 Crawford $140M/6 Story $120M/6 Bogey (opt out after $60M/3) I don't count the 2018 Bogey ring, because the contract really just added 2022 to his control years. It's the very large and long contracts that probably scare JH the most.
  11. Maybe a .240 BA and .790 OPS, but yes on all the rest.
  12. Upfront money is a huge selling point. Investing up front money in hand well can become way more than getting it piecemeal over years and years.
  13. Yes, that sums it up. I do go to extremes to counter extremism. I've tried ignoring posters a few times with mixed results. I'll try to do better going forward, but it's hard to ignore it when someone mischaracterizes my position- sometimes to a point where it is the opposite of what I wrote. I was raised to defend myself, so it's hard to ease up, there, but I will try.
  14. I disagree. I try to see all sides to an issue and am accepting of differing views. I try to add context to views I find extreme. I defend you and jacko many times for providing objective and differing viewpoints. No doubt, I get caught up in personal BS and lastwordism and often go to extremes on details and pointing out misstatements.
  15. I think the rule about over 30 pitchers is not a bad one. There are exceptions, like Scherzer and Lester, but what is it about those two that scream out they wer4e exceptions back when they were signed, longterm? It's not an exact science. Maybe it is just blind luck- maybe not. Even pitchers who have aged very well, like Verlander have missed full seasons here and there. Timing might be the real luck factor. Even on shorter deals: look at the Martin Perez example. We pay him next to peanuts to pitch for us on 2 one year deals. Nobody wanted him back in 2022, and look what happened. Curse? Incompetence? Bad luck? Bad timing?
  16. A look at Josh Taylor I've always liked this guy, but the injury bug has bit him hard, of late. His 2019 and 2021 seasons are two of the best seasons we've seen from our pen in the last 4-5 years: 2019 (47 IP) 3.04 ERA 3.11 FIP 1.18 WHIP 11.8 K/9 and 3.0 BB/9 2021 (48 IP) 3.40 ERA 2.83 FIP 1.43 WHIP 11.3 K/9 and 4.3 BB/9 He may never recover from his serious injury, but I can understand why we are holding onto him on the 40. (He still has 2 options remaining, so why not?)
  17. A look at Ryan Brasier Many of us wonder how this guy is still on the 26 and 40 man roster year in and year out. No doubt, he has look good and very good, at times, but that seems to be fewer and fewer times or so long ago, it's almost forgotten. He's had some stretches of very good pitching, and his 34 IP in 2018 were excellent (1.60 ERA/ 0.772 WHIP), but since then his numbers have been: 155 IP (4 yrs) 4.82 ERA 1.32 WHIP 9.5 K/9 2.8 BB/9 3.92 FIP (which might be the answer to why he's still here) It was 3.61 in 2022 & 3.07 after May 17th. I keep thinking he might be the next guy DFA'd or traded for scraps, but it never happens. Maybe, this will be the year.
  18. Agreed. Manny was "da man!"
  19. The Manny contract, which came with the team sold to JH was likely the best "large and long" deal the teams of the 2000's had. (Papi's 4 year deal is not really "long," and even that great deal that lead to 2 rings, ended very bitterly. Take away the 4 year deals and how many deals were good to great start to finish? How many were good for more than half the years? Had AGon stayed with us and put up the same numbers, would that contract be called a good one? While many of these deals were essential pieces to ring years, and that is a huge plus, not many really could be called clear winning deals. One might begin to understand why JH is reluctant about repeating the same mistakes over and over. Great business men are often known for not doing just that. They learn from their mistakes and try hard not to repeat them. Had we extended Lester, large and long, that would have been in the "win column." Had we extended Jake, ERod and some others, not at all.
  20. Losing Story really sucks. We were already looking at the need for just about everything to go right, and one of the biggest needed turn arounds is now out for maybe the whole season. Plus, our weakest area was middle infield, before he went down. Looks like an extended snake bite from 2022.
  21. Sox Largest Contracts Under Henry (Manny was signed before JH to $160M/8) $217M/7 Price $154M/7 Agon $145M/5 Sale $142M/7 Crawford $140M/6 Story $120M/6 Bogey (opt out after $60M/3) $110M/5 JD $110M/8 Pedroia $95M/5 Sandoval $90M/5 Yoshida (plus $15M posting fee) $88M/4 HRam $82.5/4 Porcello $82.5/5 Lackey $72.5/7 Castillo $70M/5 JD Drew $68M/5 Beckett $68M/4 Eovaldi $63M Moncada (signing bonus + tax) $52M/6 Dice-K (+$52M posting fee) $52M/4 Ortiz Not a very impressive list.
  22. Pedro did start his career with the Sox starting 33, 29 and 29 games, then, after 18 starts in 2001, he started 30, 29 and 33 games to end his time in Boston. 7 seasons with 6 being 29 or more starts. Yes, he often missed a few starts, but I don't ever think of him as being an injury risk or injury prone player with the Sox. The list is pretty telling, and I can certainly un derstand why JH might shy away from more big deals. Now, the Story mess.
  23. $60M was a great deal. The favor done for him in 2008 was well worth it.
  24. BTV rates the trade as 4.9 Rojas for 7.0 Amaya A comparative Sox return might have had to be... 8.0 Yorke 6.7 Verdugo 6.5 Anthony 6.5 Coffey 5.9 Duran 5.6 Lugo 5.6 Walter 5.0 Jordan 5.0 Paulino
  25. Just do what it takes. 2 is better than 3, but if it takes 3, do it. A two year deal with a club option for the 3rd year and moderate buyout should get it done. Leave out any no trade clause.
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