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  1. moonslav59
    How can trading for a pitcher not be a valid idea?
  2. moonslav59
    I think the plan is Urias and Reyes at 2B in 2024 with Yorke on the horizon.
  3. moonslav59
    Yes, several posters said that, and then they defended those statements by saying "We only had two pen games after the deadline."
  4. moonslav59
    I'm all for getting top pitchers through the farm, but that's not happening overnight. We are stacked with position players and need pitching. My suggestions are valid. They are not the only options, but it has been one area we have had continued success at doing. arguing we eed to do something we suck at instead, like signing big FA pitchers or drafting SP'ers in the first round, seems like a worse idea, to me.
  5. moonslav59
    Well said. I do think one argument many have been making is that drafting almost only everyday players, which we are good at, would allow us to trade some for top pitching. It's just that when you name specific ones, everybody gets their panties in a bunch. You have to choose the right ones to trade, and that means when their trade value is high. You look at where logjams are, and where the team needs are, when you make the choice on who to trade. I am all about farm building, and I'm not for mega prospect trades for SP'er, every year, but I do think once every 4-5 years is not only okay, but should be part of the plans, until we figure out how to develop great pitching, ourselves. (It seems we might be moving in the right direction in that area: Bello, Houck, Whitlock, Crawford, Wink, Murphy and some promising pitchers on the farm, right now.)
  6. moonslav59
    Not in my opinion. Once the choice was made about not re-signing him, the choice to trade him was a good one vs a comp pick after a QO offer refused.
  7. moonslav59
    Yes, that was my point. The problem is, none of those "SSs" are ready to play 3B at the MLB level, next year. That's why I asked about Story playing 3B.
  8. moonslav59
    He has had a few previous meltdowns, then came back. It's hard to tell, but you could be right. He used to be a SP'er, so it's not the IP, IMO.
  9. moonslav59
    The choice not to re-sign him was the mistake. The trade was just an aftermath of the actual bad choice made.
  10. moonslav59
    SEA also traded top prospects for Castillo.
  11. moonslav59
    Maybe waiting for 2025 would be better, despite losing ujansen, martin and a few other key pieces after 2024, but I do think we can compete with the addition of two solid and dependable SP'ers. IN 2024! Yes, I do. I think we could have, this year, had we gone over the tax line and got lucky with our FA pitcher signings. Key words "get lucky," because that's what relying on top FA pitchers is. Look at the history. Look at the history of trading for younger SP'ers.
  12. moonslav59
    Short answer: YES! Longer answer: it's better than killing the budget on a 25% hope a big FA pitcher signing works well.
  13. moonslav59
    Nobody should have expected they'd all be at 100% day one or two. All the talk about just 2 "opener games" not being reason enough to trade for a SP'er neglects this aspect as well as the effect it had on the pen in subsequent games.
  14. moonslav59
    I'm not sure a single game hurt more than that one, in 4-5 years.
  15. moonslav59
    They drafted 4, this year. (Yes, some will be moved.) Zanetello Anderson Campbell Riemer 3 in top 4 rounds in '22 (some have already been moved to other positions) Romero Coffey Meidroth 2021 Mayer (sticking at SS) The point was about drafting SSs that can or should be moved to 3B.
  16. moonslav59
    Feel free to stop responding to a valid suggestion.
  17. moonslav59
    I mentioned Urias and YY, but even them are big dice rolls. To me, trading for a 25-26 year old pitcher who looks like a certain solid TOR SP'er is less of a dice roll, and that's why it costs top prospects to do it. Pedro Schilling Beckett vs Price Lackey Richard/Kluber and back to back to back $10M guys (Dempster, Clement are the next highest FA SP'ers the Sox have signed) Like I said in a subsequent post, guarantee Bloom signs Urias or YY, and I withdraw my suggestions of trading Casas or Duran for top pitching.
  18. moonslav59
    I was for adding 2 solid SP'ers at the deadline and hoped one would be controlled for more than this year. That doesn't change what Sale is or will be. I'm also in total agreement with you that we should never count on a single start from Sale, ever again. We need to plan on him never pitching gain. If he does, we can always make room for him.
  19. moonslav59
    I mentioned the idea of moving Yoshida to DH as a reason to think about trading Casas. I like Duran in LF not CF. I'd be okay with Casas at DH and Yoshida in LF and maybe trading Duran and others for a top pitcher. Guys, we aren't getting a top pitcher by trading Bonaci, Paulino and Walter. We can roll the dice with a FA SP'er, but I see mostly 30-31+ year olds on this winter's market. If I knew Bloom would sign urias and or YY from Japan, I would not be for trading casas or Duran. I'd look to trade Verdugo or maybe even Yoshida, so Duran can play LF. You tell me the chances we sign one of those two. I don't see anyone else I want or think we can or should outbid others for. Convince me I'm wrong on this.
  20. moonslav59
    You can "buy" pitching, but it has proven to be a a losing roll of the dice gamble way more often than being even okay. Again, I really like Casas, but I think Devers will field 1B much better, day one than Casas will ever do it. Casas has enormous trade value, because he has enormous skills. I'm not for handing him away. I'm for the possibility of seeing what kind of pitcher we can get for a package centered on him. I'm not for just getting any pitcher for him. You STOP!
  21. moonslav59
    I have made no mention of what I think management will do. It's almost impossible to know or predict what they will do or even consider doing. I think moving Devers to 3B improves the team's D in 2 places. I like the idea. I don't like the idea of trading Casas, but it might bring us a very good pitcher, and the trade off may be a net plus. I do not see the value at 3B vs 1B as being so stark as you seem to think it is. There are some 1Bmen making huge bucks, too. I still don't see how watching Devers make 20 throwing errors each year makes the contract look better than watching him be a plus defensive 1Bman, most likely on day one.
  22. moonslav59
    We may never see what level he can play at, if he keeps getting hurt.
  23. moonslav59
    He's still better as an opener than than keeping Jacques on the 26. I'm fine with him ramping up from 3-4 innings to 5 or 6 by September. It would have been a waste rehabbing him longer in AAA as Jacques and the revolving door of misfit pen arms were handing games away. BTW, the term "opener" is usually reserved for pitchers who start and go only 1-2 innings. (IMO)
  24. moonslav59
    I really like Casas, but I also like Mayer, Anthony and other top prospects. How do you propose we trade for an excellent, cost-controlled pitcher with 3+ years of team control without giving up something of value. A common misconception is that suggesting a trade of a good player means we devalue them or want to "dump them," because we don't like them. We need a middle IF'er badly, so I want to keep Mayer. We will need OF'ers, soon, so I want to keep Anthony and Bleis, and their trade value should only increase, anyway. It's also why we should keep Rafaela and Abreu. Who else should we trade for pitching? Verdugo won't get us a good one. Trade Duran?
  25. moonslav59
    Well said. I made a similar point, when fans were complaining about us losing the face of the franchise in Bogey, and to lesser extents JD and Nate. We were losing with those guys. Their "faces" had little value. (Their production was declining, too.)
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