moonslav59

I don't think we extend him, so that is the main reason to trade him, now or at the deadline. 3-4 or our best OF'ers bat LH'd. That's the second major reason. We can probably sign Duvall to close to Dugo's arb salary in 2024, and play him in RF. I'd trade him, unless the right return just isn't offered.

Bednar is the replacement and has several years of control.

Some of the earlier FA signings, last winter: 11/15 Rizzo (NYY) 11/28 J Abreu (HOU) 12/6 Haniger (SFG) 12/8 T Turner (PHI) 12/9 Bogey (SDP), Contreras (STL) 12/10 Nimmo (NYM) 12/12 Josh Bell (CLE) 12/14 Jace peterson (OAK) 12/14 Bellinger (CHC) 12/15 Yoshida (BOS), Kiermaier (TOR) & A Frazier (BAL) 12/16 Vaz (MN) 12/20 Judge (NYY) & J Gallo (MN) We are just weeks away...

I think, if he goes through a rigorous rehab center and agrees to be tested (if the union allows it,) he might play MLB, in 2024.

How about keeping Dugo and trading: Mayer & Duran for Reynolds, Keller & Bednar Sign an ace. Maybe trade Jansen & Pivetta for a better SP. (BTV accepts just Jansen for Javier or Urquidy.)

Why?

Not really unexpected, but still. German has some real talent.

How about Dugo & Schreiber for Puk?

I hope he jumps on the toes of opposing GMs.

3rd place gets something, I hear.

At the risk of sounding dumb, what if the International draft? I thought teams just signed guys and had a certain bonus pool.

I see him as another DH/LF type.

Soler is a nice RH'd bat but is another DH/LF type we don't need.

I found these odds on Aug 30th: Gunnar Henderson (BAL): -700 Triston Casas (BOS): +750 Tanner Bibee (CLE): +1500 Masataka Yoshida (BOS): +1500 Josh Jung (TEX): +4500

BTV accepted Dugo for Dubon & Javier, but I doubt the Astros could keep themselves from laughing at that offer. Dubon and Urquidy was accepted, too.

I'd like to think our defense could get up to 15th or so, with no major additions made, and without hurting the offense, but who knows? There really is no going down in the rankings from 2023. OAA 30. BOS -50 29. CIN -36 28. MIA -29 27. LAA -20 26. OAK -19 25. CWS -17 24. BAL -17 23. NYM -13 We were worse than the #27 and #28 teams combined! We were worse than the #23, 24 and 25 teams combined! Here is a breakdown by position: Innings/Player/OAA in 2023 1B: 1037 Casas -10 289 Turner 0 98 Dalbec 0 2B 442 Arroyo -2 357 Valdez -4 209 Urias -3 196 Reyes -2 131 Kike -2 49 Turner -1 (On the surface, Arroyo & Kike's OAA/inning looks better than the others, but not playing Valdez at 2B should make it an overall gain, IMO.) SS 484 Kike -12 314 Story +8 256 Chang +4 208 Reyes +1 90 DHam -2 45 Rafaela -1 (No Kike & DHam turns a net zero SS OAA into a +14 OAA.) 3B 1293 Devers -9 57 Turner -4 44 Urias +1 (Maybe we can get more innings from urias at 3B, somehow. He can, at least, take JT's 57 innings.) LF 713 Yoshida -8 347 Refsnyder -2 173 Duran 0 86 Tapia 0 76 Abreu +1 (Big gains possible, here.) CF 557 Duran 0 478 Duvall -4 117 Rafaela +2 (in very few innings) 87 Kike +1 85 Abreu -1 68 Ref 0 39 Tapia 0 (Depends on how much Rafaela plays in CF) RF 1170 Dugo +1 180 Duvall +1 52 Tapia -1 (May not change much, even if we replace Dugo with Duvall, assuming a re-sign.)

Something we can all agree on!

If Yoshida goes to DH, there is room for all 3. Agreed, if Duvall is added, someone goes, and I think it would be Dugo, with Duran as the second choice. Even if we trade Refsnyder, there is not enough playing time for Duran, Raf, Abreu, Duvall and Dugo. I guess we could start Raf or Abreu in AAA and see what happens, but yes- all 5 on the 26 is not happening. With Yoshida at DH, and Duvall replacing Dugo & Ref, we could make this a rough goal: Innings: LF: 1000 Duran 300 Abreu 100 Yoshida CF 1000 Rafaela 400 Abreu RF 1100 Duvall 300 Abreu Basically, Duran, Rafaela, Abreu and Duvall getting 1000+ innings in the OF, That would be an improvement on D and a dice roll on O.

Agreed. I doubt Nate & Eflin get us to glory in '23. I know you were talking about regular season IP, but I think it is fair to point out the guy pitched 37 IP in the playoffs. That is not a common number for the postseason. He only pitched 22 IP in the '18 playoffs. This should count for something, when we are talking about his time pitching. (I get it: if we miss the playoffs, because he misses time in the regular season, what good is his playoff resume.) BTW, 144 IP would be second on the '23 Sox and just 13 IP below #1.

Risky on O, yes. Better on D. My analysis is assuming Dugo in RF, so Duran, Rafaela and Abreu would share 2 OF slots, which is much less risky. (Rafaela is a RHB, too.) Refsnyder and Yoshida offer some back-up in LF, if the offense gets so bad, we need to replace someone, but then the add on D goes away.

37 IP in the playoffs, MAN!!!!

I do think he pitched more innings than you expected from him, after leaving NYY and getting older, along the way. 111 IP '18 (TOR & BOS) + 22 POs= 133 68 IP '19 182 IP '21 + 21 POs= 202 109 IP '22 144 IP '23 (TEX) + 37 POs=181

I'm thinking we should be the teama giving two for one, but this does make some sense.

OK. If people are speculating on how bad our 2024 defense will be, they are assuming certain people will be at certain positions. I'm not even moving anybody to a new position, except Yoshida to DH and giving Duran less time in CF and more in LF. It's basically what our current depth chart shows. Sure, changes may be made at any position, but the foundation we have, now, looks better on D than 2023.

If we add 2-3 SP'ers, our pen will have 8-9 arms that are good neough to not need a lefty replacing them.