moonslav59
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I'm not thrilled about Yoshida. I doubt we can trade him without paying something. I am still optimistic about our longer term outlook, despite knowing all these guys won't be clear pluses in a year or two, but we have a pretty good amount of promising players that should be able to do well filling in for those who fail. I realize we need more than just 20-26 plus players. We need a few studs or at least a fair amount of plus-plus players. I feel we are about 3 key plus-plus players from being in the thick of the playoff race in 2024. Hell, we were in the race in 2023, until the walls came crumbling down. 2025: Bello, Crawford, Houck, Whitlock, Fitts, Gambrell/Wikelman/Perales Winckowski, Screiber, Bernardino, Campbell, Slaten, Mata, Weissert/Kelly/Murphy/Guerrero Teel, Wong/McGuire Casas Story, EValdez Mayer, DHam Devers, Meidroth Yoshida, Duran Rafaela, Anthony Abreu Yorke (Hickey/Jordan)
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A heavenly dream it was.
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I expected a lot of spending both winters.
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It is easy to what if past FA signings, but this one made a lot of sense, at the time. $15M x 5 for Senga vs $18M x 5 for Yoshida. We could have also done this AAV swap out: $18M Yoshida $15M Senga instead of... $18M Yoshida $10M Kluber $2M Tapia + the $3M from the Mondesi trade
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Maybe he DHs vs RHPs (120 games) and plays LF vs LHPs (42 games) and Ref DHs vs lefties. 2023 GS 84 LF 49 DH 29 days off 2024? 40-50 LF 12 days off 100-110 at DH
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They are reportedly looking to cut salary and have a glut of SP'ers, but I agree. I doubt they want to trade him. They'd have to really like one or two of our prospects to think about it.
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I'm not for trading for either, unless it is part of a larger plan to get better in 2024. I'd be fine trading a lot for Luzardo, if we signed Monty and added Polanco. BTV is a flawed site, and trying for a 3 players for one type deal is very likely a pipe dream, but what would you offer in the ballpark of these valued pitchers: 63 Luzardo (3 yrs for a total of an estimated $28M) 58 Garrett (5 yrs at $46M) 17 Castillo (5 yrs at $122M or $24.5M/yr) Sox values: 51 Casas 48 Bello 45 Mayer 42 Anthony 34 Duran 24 Crawford 22 Houck 22 Bleis 18 Teel 13 Yorke 12 Rafaela 10 Schreiber 9 Wink & Pivetta 8 EValdez & Abreu 7 Cespedes 6 Wikelman Duran, Crawford and Wikelman for Luzardo (That's the 3 for 1 I warned against working) Mayer and Bleis for Luzardo? Mayer & Houck or Crawford? How about Mayer & Yorke for Garrett? Mayer & Rafaela? How about Crawford or Houck for Castillo and $5M? Yorke and Schreiber for the same? I'm not sure any of these offers would be accepted, but you get the general idea.
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I'm not sure anyone still "likes" the deal, but few seem to hate it as much as you do. There is still time for him to redeem himself to an unknown degree. Is it hard to imagine him hitting: .306 18 80 (.851 OPS)with no errors as a DH? That was his pace on August 1, 2023. (21 Hrs and 91 RBI over 162 games) His .367 OBP on August 1st would have led the team. I'm not projecting or predicting he give us those numbers for the full 2024 season or the remainder of his contract, but he could. (Maybe even better.)
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The 2023 Sox C Wong & McGuire 1B Casas (Dalbec) 2B Reyes, DHam (Yorke) SS Story (Mayer) 3B Devers LF Duran & Abreu (Refsnyder) CF Abreu & Rafaela (Anthony) RF O'Neill (trade at deadline) DH Yoshida SP1 Bello SP2 Crawford SP3 Houck SP4 Murphy SP5 Walter (Gambrell/Wikelman/Dobbins/ICoffey/Penrod/Song/Bastardo) Closer Whitlock RP2 Winckoski RP3 Schreiber RP4 Bernardino RP5 Mata RP6 Slaten RP7 Fitts/Kelly/Criswell/Weissert/Wikelman/Perales
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BTV accepted: Sale, Jansen and Martin plus $33M to PHI for pitching prospect Mick Abel. Pivetta, EValdez plus $4M to STL for pitching prospect Tink Hence. Full throttle!
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Not a bad idea. $5M AAV at the deadline is a $15M a year player.
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Craig Breslow hired as Head Of Baseball Operations
moonslav59 replied to Tedballgame's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Who would "calm the mood?" If it's not Monty or Snell, we should just admit we are punting and act accordingly. (Won't happen- I know.) I just can't fathom them actually believing they can keep the sham going in perpetuity. We certainly have some dumb fans, but 5 years in a row should get through the thickest of skulls. -
What about deal like Castillo or Luzardo- pitchers with 3 or more years on control?
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Good point. Did he know it after Betts?
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Post #3250. You said it less than 2 hours ago.
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No. I thought it was obvious I was talking total contract money. $60M/3 Stroman $45M/3 Lugo If you are talking just AVV, I'm not sure who you get much for $15M/3: Michael A Taylor?
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Craig Breslow hired as Head Of Baseball Operations
moonslav59 replied to Tedballgame's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
He almost always makes sense. -
Okay, add the best FA you think we can get for the $15M differential. Is it still "wild talk?"
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Maybe Luzardo or Garrett. Maybe Castillo, if SEA wants to cut the budget. I'd rather just overpay Monty and keep the prospects. Make minor trades for guys like Polanco.
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Love this!
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I think Bloom knew, too.
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If you add the Pablito and HRam deals together, nobody can claim JH tied Ben's hands, that winter. The next winter saw the Price signing (under DD.) What Ben failed to do, beyond making good on one big signing, was pull the trigger on a major prospect trade. BTW, two of Ben's major additions, HRam and Porcello both did way better in DD's first year than Ben's last year. Flip those two seasons, and maybe Ben gets another season as GM.
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Craig Breslow hired as Head Of Baseball Operations
moonslav59 replied to Tedballgame's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
What does Merloni have to say about it? That's who counts! -
I did add a year to MLBTR's projection. Maybe instead of raising the projection from $85M/5 to $110M/6, I could have gone $100M/5- or even $95M/5.
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It's not like Lugo sucked before '23. He just did not start. I know it's a risk, but he'll likely cost $15M/3 less than Stroman, and I have greed Stroman is better, but the risk factor, which included money spent makes it "about" the same. To you, that is "wild talk?" For all we know, Stroman may get 4 years or $66M/3. Would it still be a major risk differential? I know you are not high on Merrifield, but what if Lugo + Merrifield costs as much as Stroman. Is the "risk factor" about the same?
