Kimmi
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There are plenty of reasons to cringe at this contract, but Price's postseason ERA is not one of them.
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A bit expensive, but reasonable, as you said. With JBJ and Castillo still largely unproven, the Sox needed a good 4th outfielder as insurance.
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I don't think there's any chance of Price opting out. Unless for some reason, he's really, really unhappy playing in Boston.
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Thrilled to have Price on the team! Welcome aboard!
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Well, despite how much money the fans think ownership should spend every year, they have a certain budget that they are going to operate within. I'm sure they can afford to spend more, but they're not going to. They are first and foremost businessmen. So while you might think that they should just up their payroll to $250 million if that's what it takes, that's not the way they're going to operate.
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IMO, that constant abuse on management and players is still going on.
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As you said, the teams in 2012, 2014, and 2015 looked better on paper, IMO, good enough to contend. It didn't work out, but it's not like the FO did not do its job in putting together a good team. It's been a whole two years since the Sox won a World Series. Ouch.
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Here is a good summary of why the Sox should be wary of committing $30 million a year to Price. It gives the Sox very little wiggle room financially. And this doesn't even address 2020, 2021, and 2022 when Price will be at the end of his contract and likely not as effective, and our youngsters will be reaching free agency.
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In the 3 years prior to signing with the Sox, Hanley's worth according to Fangraphs was $16.7 mil, $37.6 mil, and $25.1 mil. For a hitter as good as he was, $22 mil in not a bad contract, especially since it's not that long term. The idea of giving him away just to have him off the team really makes no sense. I understand that he really has no position to play, and I don't want him at first base, but if we have to eat that much of his contract, we'd be better off keeping him. If he stinks that badly at first base, he can DH some this year and slide into that role full time next year.
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We don't know the terms of the contract yet, but assuming that it is a reasonable one, I really like this deal. Dombrowski stated a few months back that his goals for the offseason were to get an impact closer, a right handed hitting 4th outfielder, and a #1 pitcher. He has not messed around in accomplishing the first two. Good job Dombrowski.
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Well, most Europeans obviously don't know much about baseball.
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After last year, no. But before Porcello's year last year, I think if both were free agents right now, it would be a toss up as to whether GMs would prefer to sign Porcello for his 4 year contract or Zimmermann for his 5 year contract. As UN said, they would see more upside in Porcello, whereas Zimmermann has the more established track record.
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I do not disagree. It's interesting how there seems to be such a premium on relievers right now because of KC's success last year. I agree that the Sox cannot go without a #1 unless they are going to fortify their pen some more, just saying that it can be done.
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I agree. I think he would be a great leader and mentor for our young guys.
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I agree that it is probably best to trade Hanley, mostly because he does not have a position to play, but I have a feeling if he is traded, we will be paying dearly for him to rake offensively for another team. Think about how good he was in April, before he hurt his shoulder.
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Volquez is a comparable pitcher to Wei-Yin Chen as far as value and production go. He's one of those 2nd tier type pitchers, not a #1. Interesting tidbit. Wade Miley was worth as much in WAR (2.6) last season as Volquez was.
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As somebody mentioned in another post, having a #1 might seemingly help you in the postseason, although that is not a foregone conclusion, but having a #1 is not necessary to get to the postseason. KC didn't pick up Cueto until the trade deadline, and Cueto certainly did not pitch like a #1 for the remainder of the regular season once KC got him.
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Let me first say that I think this is a pretty good deal for Detroit. Porcello was awful last year, but seriously, take that out of the picture for the time being because how he pitched last year was not known when the Sox gave him his extension. Porcello's extension covers his age 27-30 years. Zimmermann will be 34 when his contract ends. Porcello's contract is for 4 years, while Zimmermann's is for 5 years. Keep in mind that the Sox like the idea of paying a higher AAV for fewer years. The season prior to Porcello's extension, he had an ERA of 3.43 and a 2.8 WAR. Zimmermann had a 3.66 ERA and a 3.0 WAR. Fairly comparable performances leading up to their contracts. Taking all that into consideration, what the Sox gave Porcello is right in line with what Zimmermann received, and as I said earlier in the post, I think it's a good deal for Detroit.
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I bet fans of most other teams would love to have that WS title, even if it meant finishing in last the other 3 years. At any rate, it isn't even just this year that Sox fans have started acting entitled. In other words, it didn't take finishing last 3 out of the last 4 years to give us a sense of entitlement.
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LOL Point taken.
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Of course it was decades of frustration (though I did not suffer as long as many of you did). That said, we, as a fanbase, were loveable. There's always something nice about being loveable, isn't there? Since winning, we are one of the most hated fanbases in baseball. Honestly, I can't say that I blame the other fans. I would hate us also, if I were a fan of another team. As I said, it's what we always hated about the Yankees fans.
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You definitley picked the best team to become a fan of.
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I agree that it likely won't be an issue, though you never really know. If Price and the team get off to a good start, all will be good. OTOH, if Price and the team get off to a rough start, that could set the wrong tone, similar to what happened with Crawford. That said, everything that I've read about Price says that he is a great teammate, a great clubhouse guy, a true professional, and just a great person in general. I don't think there would be any issues with him in terms of performance or clubhouse presence.
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I know everyone wants a #1, and I do too. However, the Royals did not have a #1 and they won the WS last year. There is more than one way to skin a cat, as the saying goes. The GM change was definitely made because of the 3 last place finishes in 4 years. IMO, it wasn't fair to Ben, but I can understand why it was done. We always hear about how 2013 was a fluke, how the Sox were extremely lucky, or how there was some magic involved. There is always some luck involved for a team to win a WS, but for the most part, I don't see 2013 as a fluke at all. I honestly believe that both 2014 and 2015 were the fluke years, not 2013. There was much more that went unexpectedly wrong in each of those years than there was that went unexpectly good in 2013. As far as Farrell goes, I agree. There was no way the Sox could fire him at this time. Perhaps the team will rally around him this season, as it seemed they did when they heard that he had cancer. I am glad that Lovullo chose to stick around.
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I am okay with this too. If Dombrowski accomplishes this, I will feel good about our team heading into this season.
