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Also spot on.

Spot on.

They never mentioned which owners.

I'm not willing to go as far as giving Bloom credit for anticipating the pandemic shortened (or canceled) season, but this is a valid point. Bloom is good at what he does.

I had forgotten about the pursuit of Quantrill. I'm sure he was looking to add cost controlled pitching in some way or another. Just because we don't hear about it doesn't mean there's nothing happening.

I am wondering why the Yankees and Manfred are so adamant about keeping the letter sealed. If it just shows what we already know, why not just unseal it and move on. There is a clear double standard going on here. And yes, the Yankees were still doing it in 2018 and 2019. No doubt whatsoever.

LOL This 100%. It will be nice to be able to get back to some real baseball discussions.

Many people assumed it was PEDs. Now we learn otherwise. Or maybe it was both PEDs and sign stealing? I wouldn't put it past the Yankees.

As of now, there are 2 owners who are stating that they don't want a season. If I'm not mistaken, if 8 owners agree not to have a season, then they won't have a season.

Yes, the number of people that are being careless in public is rather concerning. It could end the season before it really even gets started. The latest is that the players will not offer another counter proposal. Their mantra is now to tell them when and where to show up. I am pretty much over the whole process. It's been going on for weeks, haggling over money that neither side needs. Regardless of what happens now, whether they play or not, whether the two sides reach an agreement or not, the damage is done. And it sounds like things will remain ugly in the 2021 season.

I get that. I will still be very disappointed if they don't have a season. It appears that we may be headed towards a 50 game mandated season with many replacement players. Baseball really screwed this up.

Why are the Yankees and Manfred fighting so hard to keep the letter sealed? Because it will damage some reputations. Duh. If there were nothing to see here, then you would assume that they'd want the letter to be public to clear their names.

Well reportedly there will not be any repercussions to the Yankees for whatever is contained in that letter, because it occurred on or before 2017. But regardless, two points about that: 1. Do you really think that the Yankees were not stealing signs in 2018 or 2019? Please. 2. The hypocrisy is what's so punitive here, both to the Yankees and to Manfred.

Perhaps he was willing to go into the season with the current roster, perhaps he was still working on adding another pitcher. I'm not convinced that he was intent on punting the season. There was too much talent on the team to punt. That said, I am glad that he has a much more balanced view of the long term versus the short term than Dombrowski did. I know that Bloom did not foresee the pandemic, but the shorter this season is, the better the trade for Vertugo and Downs looks, not that it looked bad to begin with.

I supposed we should wait until the letter is unsealed before making any judgments about this, but in the meantime, I am very much enjoying the tweets by the Astros players and my man Jared Carrabis.

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He had enough input into their decision making to feel good about his ability as a GM.

Well, Manfred has stated that there will be a season, 100% guaranteed. However, with the new spikes occurring in several states, the season could very well be in jeopardy. A player and a pitching coach have recently tested positive for the coronavirus. This whole process between the owners and the players has been one big screw up.

^^ This is what ticks me off about all the players (especially CC) and fans from the other teams crying that they are victims. I have never doubted that the Yankees were one of the biggest culprits, but somehow went unpunished.

Red Sox Stats @redsoxstats · 3h Never anything to see in New York

Red Sox Stats @redsoxstats · 3h There is some serious ******** going on and everyone knew it all winter. Burn it to the ground

Evan Drellich @EvanDrellich · 4h Judge orders 2017 MLB letter to Yankees unsealed; plaintiffs say it details sign stealing https://theathletic.com/1870649/2020/06/13/judge-orders-2017-mlb-letter-to-yankees-unsealed-plaintiffs-say-it-details-sign-stealing/

From what I've read, the players have more or less already dismissed this proposal. They do not want to back down from getting a full prorated salary. The players can make almost as much money playing the 50 game season, so their reasoning is why should they play 22 more games.

He has a long and excellent track record with Tampa Bay. That's all the merit he needs. But if you want more, he traded Mookie and Price for cost controlled younger players.

The owners' latest counter proposal looks like a no go. I guess we should be preparing ourselves for a 50 game season. Bob Nightengale @BNightengale · 30m The #MLBPA receives formal proposal from #MLB on 72-game season starting July 14, with 80% guarantee of their prorated salaries with a postseason, 70% with no postseason. Deadline is Sunday for 72-game schedule. Also, 29-man rosters for the first month. Players also have opt-out. The MLB proposal provides players $1.5 billion in total compensation if there's a postseason,_ $1.27 billion during regular season, an increase of $300 million from their Monday proposal. The regular season, which would start on July 14 and end on Sept. 27, would allow clubs to carry 29 players the first month of the season. Any player can choose not to play, without pay or service time. Those high-risk players to COVID-19 would still get paid with service time. If you factor in the $50 million playoff pool, players would get 83% of their pro-rated salaries if the World Series is played. The proposal also provides for best-of-three wild-card rounds instead of a one game. So there could be a total of 16 more postseason games this year. So, if the World Series is played to its entirety, there's a $314 million difference between #MLB's proposal and what the players would earn with full pro-rated pay over 72 games. The gap is narrowing. Since there may be no fans at World Series games, the $50 million player pool, per #MLB proposal, would guarantee about $250,000 to players and staffers on the winning World Series team and about $170,000 to those on the losing team.