FredLynn
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Then I guess Mookie Betts will have to "settle for" earnlng "just" $10M dollars this year. I think he earned "just" about a million dollars last year. He is still putting in his time at his business, The Boston Red Sox. While I put MY time in I was "underpaid" relative to others who had, say, 10 more years of service than I did-even though we essentially performed the same job- but I knew what I was getting into. I will concede that its tougher for MLB players to choose another employer IN THEIR FIELD, but the option is always there to get OUT of their fields and, say, sell real estate or open a restaurant if they are unhappy with their working conditions. As I wrote elsewhere, I just can't understand how JD Martinez can possibly hope to feed his family with just $125M. Rice and beans, no doubt. Sorry. These guys ALL have a choice. Take the best offer-or find a better one in another field if they like.
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"Underpay" according to who? That involves a value judgement. Its not just metrics that determine the value of a player, its also years of service and other factors. When you talk about a guy getting $300,000 as a minimum salary, its hard to say with certainty that they are being "underpaid". I did the same job as others in my field for years and earned less money than they did because they had more years of service with the company. There was were no negotiations; I was told how much the offer was and I could choose to take it or work elsewhere, perhaps in a different field if I wanted to. I didn't have the option to "hold out", nor do most normal people. If you "hold out" someone else will be offered my job. Sorry; these guys are spoiled and greedy, in general. I have no sympathy for guys like Martinez at all.
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They are limited only by their imagination and willingness and desire to change. There are many players who chose other careers when they couldn't get what they wanted from the game. Doug Mirabelli chose to sell real estate; John Rocker became a conservative columnist; Byun-Hyung Kim opened a restaurant; Mitch Williams developed his own brand of salsa, "The Wild Thing". JD Martinez is thumbing his nose are an absurd amount of money, as is Hosmer, in an effort to get even more. When is it "enough"? It smacks of greed. You could say the same thing about the owners not wanting to pay these guys even more money so they can keep it for themselves or for their business, but you know what? They OWN the team. As Mel Brooks once said, "Its good to be the king".
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The baseball league minimum salary is now up to $300,000. Thats most of the way to the top 1% of wage earners in this country (they earn about $400,000). I am not disputing how hard these guys work, but on the other hand, I feel like I worked hard to get where I am as well, as, I am sure, did you. If I didn't like the salary or working conditions that my chosen profession offered, like everyone else in this country, I am free to seek employment elsewhere. Similarly, if a baseball player does not care for what is offered, he can also leave. Its a free country. I certainly think that they should try to get what they can, but I still have no sympathy for guys like JD Martinez who is apparently turning down a contract (or at least stalling) worth a reported $120M+. No tears for JD. Sorry. Sign the paper.
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"Suppress" the salaries....an interesting oxymoron. We aren't exactly talking about NORMAL pay rates here. These athletes are talented, no doubt, but they are all being paid outrageous sums to PLAY A GAME. They certainly have the choice to leave their chosen game and sell cars instead. Its hard for me to have any sympathy at all for players who are holding out for salaries well over $100M when they could sign to PLAY THE GAME today and be set for life. Wait.....let me wipe the tear off my cheek.....
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I liked him just fine....its his baseball play that I didn't like. From early on his K to BB ratio portended a disaster, and that is pretty much what happened. Flash in the pan.
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Define "imminent". Is it 24 hours? A week? Two? All these unsigned FAs are not going to be selling used cars come opening day.
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One has to feel a great deal of sorrow for JD Martinez. Seems $120M isn't enough to feed his family. How could we possibly expect him to survive on so little?
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Its more up to his knee than medical science. Generally microfracture therapy (if you can even call it that) is a pretty crappy way to deal with the loss of cartilage in the knee. Sometimes it works briefly, maybe for a year if the patient is lucky, but the new cartilage created doesn't function very well. I think Pedroia will eventually need a joint replacement.
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Oh yeah....him. I will double his pay immediately for that effort.
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Of course not...but none of that has happened yet. In fact, as far as I recall, all that has happened is signing Moreland.
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Its also highly unlikely that DD is going to allow this uncertainty to go on forever. Thats just plain stupid. He will not be making public his negotiating tactics, but I am quite sure that he has a deadline in mind. Eventually it will be time to move on.
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And $2M a day starting.......
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Is there a way to rename this thread? I would suggest "The Cold Stove Thread".....
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You can say that ("his career would have fallen apart) about most pitchers in the game. Very few pitchers maintain their level of excellence. In 2009-2011 he was very very dominant, especially in 2010. I remember watching his 95+ fastball combined with a 90 mph slider, both with very good location when he was on. All you really n need is two pitches as a RP; as a starter you need at least 3 most of the time. Bard never developed that third reliable pitch-AND he lost the ability to locate. I think his lack of success as a SP played with his head and permanently screwed him up: he lost confidence. Had he stayed in the pen, where he belonged until he had that third pitch, I think he would have had a very good career as a RP.
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Yup. Five years: no more. And even that is a stretch for Martinez, who is really going to end up as a DH. I would even prefer four years, though that is probably unlikely to get him. Longer than that (5) financially hobbles the franchise for many years to come. I can put up with one year of mediocrity as long as we have access to next year's FA class.
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As is just about everything else Sox-related this offseason. Meanwhile us ordinary fans sit hear twittling our thumbs waiting for something to happen that is REAL.....and wagging our typing fingers about like chiclets bouncing over a tile floor. Waiting........waiting......
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I would not offer him more years unless he accepts much less money. And thats not going to happen.
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I have tickets to the first ST game against the Twins. Not going there just for that game, obviously.....I have family in the Tampa area.
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^^^^^^ This.
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We will not get him for less than five years; we will likely not even get him for that many years (5). While I agree with you that he isn't worth a long contract at high AAV, thats what it will take to sign him. If we do not improve offensively its going to be a long long summer.
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Everybody cherry picks the stats and data that best support their position...everybody. Its not only true here but its true everywhere else too.
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I am not a big fan of JBJ, but to say that he has "no value except to Red Sox fans" is inaccurate. True, he is not very good offensively, but defensively he is a wizard, and he does have a favorable contract.
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According to BR it was ............JBJ. Bogey wasn't even third. Benintendi was. https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BOS/2017.shtml
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Guess which position player last year had the second highest WAR value......