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The Red Sox organization is proving that it doesn't matter what you do and where your points of emphasis lie, it can still be screwed up. Are other organizations just better at data collection and scouting?
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Maybe Moncada - there is no member of the current Red Sox organization that should be considered safe from a possible trade. the only question would be who is doing the trading. Hate to see something wasted. Maybe Moncada
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? What - I don't get what you are saying. Should I have said - If you are simply a stat geek then you are a fool + If you are just a scout trusting geek you are a foo? Or was your comment directed toward my slightly hypocritical "Amen brother"? I'll try to be a little clearer. I do get a kick out of you though.
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Useless seems like too strong a word. If I am looking for a hitter and the only infomation that I have to go on is a high batting average and lots of RBI's, my guess would be that that player looks like a pretty good hitter.
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Amen brother . I'll drink to that - here's to you.
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If you are simply one or the other, you are a fool. There is no place for someone who knows virtually nothing about the game other than what the stats tell them. There is no place in the game for someone who refuses to use all available tools to build a roster.
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Sad but true
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A clout or an out.
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I agree here for sure. It is becoming a bit of a trend for them which does scare me.
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I agree with you for the most part here(How about that!). I probably do think that he might be a bit slower than you do but that is all opinion. I did have similar feelings toward Manny but Hanley is no Manny.
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There is no question that we learn much more about ourselves and the people around us when we lose. Life is good when you win for sure. Without using the malcontent word or even suggesting that he might be a negative influence on anybody, basically because I don't that he might be or is, I will just say that he looked a little to layed back as a young player in Portland. I think lazy was the word many people used to describe him. Regardless about what anybody thinks about him and his personal characteristics, How is helping us and how do you see him helping us going forward? If Ortiz was retiring, I could see it. Since he isn't retiring, the fact that Ramirez has to field a position looks like it hurts our team.
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I really don't think that Ramirez is a malcontent. I am inclined to think that he is lazy and probably not too bright. He might be a genius. I just don't know that he is. What I do know is that if the choice is stupid or just uncoachable, I will take stupid any day. Stupid and coachable can at least be worked with. Now - once again, he might be brilliant. It just doesn't look that way. If he could make plays adequately at any position, I could see his value. If he can't field and he isn't the dh, he isn't helping us at all.
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i am sure that I was in a selectively small group. We saw him play. We heard the grumblings. We basically felt that he was lazy and we were happy to see him go. We never questioned his talent level. i believe that he creates more problems than he does solutions. Attitude aside, I don't see a place for him until Ortiz is gone. Sandoval is a third baseman. We needed a third baseman.
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sk - i think I mis-remember Ortiz and Pedroia turning into goons. I am certainly not saying that the Ramirez trade wasn't a good one for the Sox . It was a good one. It doesn't change the fact that people questioned what Ramirez was all about. I don't remember people shedding any tears when he left town.
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I understand what you are saying. I will say that when Hanley Ramirez was traded from Boston, his attitude and overall work ethic was a major topic of discussion for the fan base at that time. We saw him quite a bit in Portland. I would be surprised if the people running the front office didn't have discussions about his overall approach. It doesn't make any difference now how much Ben was or was not aware of. I get the fact that you support Kimmi with respect to much that she says. I like her too and even agree with her sometimes. I'm just not a big Hanley Ramirez fan and I think that it was a mistake to bring him back.
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How loud a voice do you really think Ben Cherington had at that time?
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I don't think that I said that they didn't employ scouts. If this is what they produce, it doesn't seem to be working.
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I really don't think that Castillo was or is a stand out very good player. Right at this moment, Rodriguez is their best pitcher.
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Very true! no place on anybody's stat sheet showing us how to measure character. People who know athletes know it when they see it.
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Hanley Ramirez was traded early in his career by people that had some clue as to what type of person he was and was going to become. He brought a good return but if he had had the mentality to go along with his talent it is quite possible that he never would have been traded. Whether you like Panda or not, he filled an obvious need. He=a third baseman. He was and is sadly an upgrade over what we had at third. Ramirez can hit some of the time. Big f***ing deal. He is a malcontent who needs to be asked to change positions to help his team. If a dh was needed, then maybe but we don't and didn't need one. Now before anyone jumps as to how I know that he is a malcontent let me say that I am as sure of it as some of you are that the Red Sox coaching staff screwed up Porcello. We will not gain ground until he either is dhing or until he is gone. He cannot play left field, third base, or first base.
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You are right as we all know. It is a sad reality and a losing way to look at things. But it does happen. i know that you disagree with me with respect to the fact that it is a loser's way to look at things. That is ok. I absolutely believe that the best players have earned the right to play. Regardless of options or team control - the best players should always play. I also understand that it is a business and all that goes with it. I don't buy it at all.
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I think you are right. You are a good one. I like the banter. I am just your typical disturbed fan right now.
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it's all good - you can hit me with the thread jacking stuff if you like. I just couldn't help it. I agree with you on much of this. I would say that in some cases a player's first exposure to the teaching of good defensive technique may be at the professional level. Some not a lot. Pretty sad! Not the way it is where I come from. On my high school and college teams, the instruction was quite good. I have always been a believer in drafting your best athletes. Normally it is foolish not to. I think implying that I called the Red Sox overuse of repositioning players a fetish is a little harsh though.
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You could be right but I think that if he was that mentally fragile, he should not have been signed. Speaking of that - signing Hanley Ramirez was a mistake.
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Oh - while I am on a little rant here - I think that your best hitter hits third. And that your run producers should still be in the 3-4-5 slots.