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I saw Hernandez play and think that trying to make him into a third baseman would be a waste. Shaw is good for 20 home runs and 75 plus RBI's. Hernandez will not give us that. I like my corner infielders to have a little pop. I wish that Ben had taken Rutledge with him when he left. As for Encarnarcion - 3 years at 18 per. Maybe an option - maybe not. His choice from there on in. I would not trade anyone that we have for any of the field position players that you mentioned. If you are trading for pitching that is an entirely separate issue. To try to improve a position such as third, which really isn't weak, by trading young prospects to borrow mediocrity for a year or two ... - nope. Pitching that's it. The deals that DD made brought us pitching. Perhaps they didn't work out the way they hoped they would but I'm going against the grain here - but they really didn't cost us much. Maybe 5 years from now one of the players traded will make an impact maybe not. The franchise is currently being run by an adult!
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I didn't mention Hernandez because I don't want to see him at third. Second base and shortstop for him in my mind. I was never a Rutledge fan. I really think that Dubon winds up at either second or short eventually either for us or someone else. I really like Dubon. I think that he has the potential to make us forget all about Guerra being included in "the deal". As a matter of fact, it is conceiveable that his development may affect whether bogaerts gets the contract from the Sox he wants or not. It might even prompt his permanent move to third.
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My guess is that they do nothing with respect to third base. No need. That one gets taken care of in house. On the same page as E/Ballgame with respect to Encarnarcion - Red sox will place their own value on him. If he wants to be in Boston, he'll come but he probably will be able to get more $ somewhere else. Shaw/Sandoval/Moncada/Holt/Devers etc. etc. etc. - this group will match the production of any journeyman pro who might cost us something. We also might find something really good amongst this group. it really is worth waiting to see how it plays out. No panic mode needed.
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Just a little chain rattle. Good posting!
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Come on now - you know that you are hindsight's master. The Red Sox have made a ton of huge deals over the years. Some have worked out, more I guess have not. I'll leave that up to you. I like DD's moves because they have been rational and seem to make sense. Of course we all wish that Kimbrel and Price could have shown the dominance that they have shown but who knew? None of us really wanted to see Smith get injured. DD has not simply thrown crap against the wall in hopes that some would stick as his predecessors have done. Sensible moves in the present tense! We'll see how this off-season works out for him.
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To date an excellent job. He made some moves. Micro manage them and hind sight them to death if you will but in no way were they careless in nature and in no way has he jeopardized the future of the franchise. trading Margot and Espinoza seem to be an upset to some. Get that - you are entitled to your opinion. I am a tight old Scotsman and I wouldn't bet one penney on either of those guys making him look bad in the future.
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Don't get me wrong here - I am not for signing Bautista but what did he do that makes anyone question his attitude? When Hanley Ramirez was signed, there were concerns expressed about his attitude. Some were made by me. It has proven to be a non-issue.
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I am a supporter of SpudWar statistical analysis. Simple and direct. Paralysis through analysis does not happen in this world.
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You have mentioned Todd Frazier numerous times before. I don't get it. For what he would cost, i do not think that it makes any sense at all. You can I am sure justify your thoughts through a little statistical hocus pocus but looks like a change for change sake to me. I call it a wash. If Shaw gets replaced, I think that it will definitely come from within. It is a minor problem.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I agree with your line of reasoning. I think I have actually been saying as much. I don't think that trading just to trade makes any sense. If an opportunity arises to get that special pitcher, we really do have to look at it though. The Red Sox should be dealing from strength though.
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If third base is a huge hole in the minds of some, then I would say we are in pretty good shape.
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That is undestandable. A good trade accomplishes both though i think. I'm not sure that I would sacrifice the next one or two years for what we might be in 5. There are no guarantees.
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I agree with your premise in general. But in actuality it depends on what sensible is to the parties involved. In order to trade for a good one so to speak, it will cost us for sure. Everyone knows that. What is sensible to you might not be sensible to me. What is sensible to us certainly might not be sensible to the organization. In my world, if it is going to cost us one good starter plus, only Betts is untradeable. i think that we improve the team with a trade. I'm for that as opposed to holding a pat hand. I want better pitching.
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i know that we have been focusing on the hole left by Ortiz. I don't know if the organization has been or not. I would still love to see a sensible trade made to get us a young totr starter. If no trade is made, I doubt seriously that a big bat gets signed. We have quite a few young position players that we just don't know much about. I don't think that they will all be playing in Pawtucket and Portland. it will become more likely that the dh position will be covered via committee.
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I think that a trade of that nature might make sense obviously dependent on which pitcher we traded. Once again though - who is coming aboard? I really also think that if one or more of our young unknowns are traded a big play will be made for a bat to take Papi's place. If no trade is made, it is less likely that a dh bat will get signed.
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who did you have in mind that wouldn't require a trade?
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For the most part, i agree with you. I will say though that if they don't trade for pitching then it has something to do with them trying to actually figure out what they have in their young players - Moncada, Swihart, Benintendi, Shaw, Travis, Hernandez, Vazquez maybe even Dubon etc. If they don't trade, what do they do with all of them? I think that the two go together. If they trade for pitching, I would expect them to sign the big bat if they can. If they hold the line with the current rotation, i don't see them giving any of these kids away. More than just a couple of those kids will need to play. I hope they go the trade route if a good one presents itself.
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I would be pleasantly surprised if Sandoval came into the spring in anything that resembles good physical shape for someone as young as he is. He is young. 30 ain't old for anyone unless you are obsessed with age. He has a good 5 year window where he could possibly thrive uninjured and in a healthy body. Do I expect that? No - but to just assume that he won't be able to get fit because he is 30 is laughable. Fat people get thinner. Motivated people get fit. he has the time to get healthy. Whether he will or not??? It's up to him.
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i don't care what is talked about. Just saying. How about we discuss why some think that a decent fielding third baseman who is good for between 15 and 20 h/runs and 70 plus rbis is such an extreme liability for us going forward.
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i guess that I might be the only one but I will keep saying - third base really is not a big deal. If that is a real problem for us right now, then we have it pretty good.
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Already been mentioned
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You are probably right. You know more about whoever he/she is than I do. I will say again though that whatever the role unless they actually play the game they are replaceable and probably easily. Sometimes we tend to make people out to be much more special than they are. It will be a temporary loss and certainly doesn't reflect on the direction the organization is going with respect to the product on the field. I'm sure that some might try to make this a DD story of sorts. That will be too bad!
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I agree with you and I sense a mini-conspiracy theory brewing. I don't want them to become top heavy with unnecessary personnel. We are all replaceable! My concern is much more directed toward the players playing as opposed to the executives exectiveing.
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This year? He really wasn't all that effective over the course of the season. He pitched in the playoffs pretty much the way he pitched all season. He wilted all season and I don't give a s*** how many games he won. Not ace like this year.
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If you have ever played at any type of elevated level in any competitive sport, you know that all of things that we might call human factors - the things that can't be measured exist and are very very important. It is what has always made a life in athletics fun for me. I believe that good solid preparation can certainly make some athletes and teams seem more lucky than others but when the screws start to tighten interesting things that just defy logic quite often happen.