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  1. couldn't do it - terms like clutch and choke - team player ... have been used for years by everyone involved with athletics at all levels. I would hate to think that I was spending any time at all trying to prove whether they are accurate labels or not. They are opinions. They are personal and just speaking for myself don't need to be proven.
  2. Sorry - I'm just not to keen on a labels in general. If someone on here wants to call me an ******* when I act like one (in print) I'm ok with that but to slap a label on me without having any clue who or what I am - my point is that there is too much of that crap going join in general in the world today. Now I am ready to move on as well.
  3. Is calling someone clutch derogatory? What did I miss? I have been called anti-stat, traditionalist, old fashioned, old school, and just old. Sorry - left one out - conservative (the only one I like). I don't think any of the other labels really apply but oh well. If someone watched me play today and called me clutch, in all honesty that would thrill me - the others even though I can live with them, not so much. All things I don't think need to be proven in my world.
  4. I had to blame Moon's rant on someone -lol. He baffled me with the ******** on the last one. I got through half of it but that is all I could deal with. Plus I wanted to find out if you had crawled out of the snow. We are coming home for a week or so and I bet I know what it is going to be like traveling through Boston to get to Maine!
  5. Who is responsible for this? Spud?
  6. Do they really Moon? Who are the stat deniers? It does kind of look to me like if you question anything that has been even suggested by someone who fashions themselves to be a "stat geek", then you obviously must disagree with everything related to stat compilation in general. That is not true . I really don't know anyone who questions the importance of the work done by the people who are immersed in stat analytics. Not accepting everything that gets thrown at you does not necessarily mean that you belong in a group labelled - the opposition. What actually is a "stat geek"?
  7. for me too but I have o leave you with this. I made a birdie putt today on 17 that saved me a great deal of $. I should not necessarily have made the putt but I willed it in!
  8. It does kind of sound like you think it is a mirage. Not to me. It is very real.
  9. Kimmi - this is a legit question for you. You might know the answer and if you don't you probably know someone who does. What if anything to do the people that you call "stat geeks" think of the study of pscho cybernetics? do they respect it as having value? It is a practice that is and has been used for a quite some time.
  10. Hey don't get me going about the tooth fairy. My grandchildren are currently making small fortunes as a result of that old bat. lol
  11. I surely do think that you would see more tendencies toward these types of things at the lower levels but I don't think that a player's skill level necessarily tells me whether they will come up big or not at any level all the time. I just believe that we can't provide data to determine everything. You might not agree with me and that is ok. It also doesn't mean that I don't appreciate and understand the value of using every piece of information that we can get our hands on to help us. I do. I also think that it is very true that many of the greatest games are won and lost because of what someone has between their ears and I think that it is pretty tough to measure that.
  12. That is a good point and it might turn out to be his year. I just want the best one that we can have back there doing the job.
  13. I really think that it will boil down to which of these two is the better hitter with respect to the immediate future. They are both pretty good catchers. I can see that there is a lot of love here for Vazquez, but I really don't see him as a better catcher at this time than Leon. It may really boil right down to whether the Red Sox hang on to Swihart and how he progresses as a backstop.
  14. No one I hope would disagree with what you have said here. Any professional athlete has to have learned to deal with pressure very well or they wouldn't be where they are. None of them are immune to what it can do though and some deal with it a lot better than others.
  15. If I am reading this correctly, I am hearing that you think Leon because of his age, could become even a better catcher than he is right now. Obviously I think that you are really talking Swihart and Vazquez but I think that people tend to think that Leon is older than he is. I am going to predict that if Vazquez or Swihart beat him out for that job in the near future, we are talking about an all-star caliber catcher. I would not take that bet. If Leon stays healthy, I don't think that it will happen.
  16. He did look a little heavy even for a blocky solid type catcher I'll give you that. He is still young though and I have to say that I like the bigger body behind the plate. He might not last for long but I think that he is the best of the bunch right now. I might see it differently if I felt that Vazquez was better than Leon behind the plate but I don't.
  17. Agree - I actually think that both Vazquez and Swihart are unknown quantities. Leon certainly is no sure thing but we at least have an idea of what we might have. If Swihart is ever going to catch at the major league level, he needs to prove that he can catch better! that shouldn't happen in Boston. If Vazquez is ever going to start behind the plate in Boston, he needs to prove that he is a better overall catcher than Leon. No small task. I get what all of the projections say about both Swihart and Vazquez but to date they haven't reached those lofty projections. Sticking either one of them behind the plate in Boston and letting them learn as you go wouldn't be a very smart thing for this franchise to do in my opinion. For these two guys we should find out this year (if you will pardon the expression) whether or not the bear shits in the buckwheat! Time for these boys to get it done.
  18. I think that you are right but I don't get out much. I'm not sure if it is just a talksox thing or if the feeling is nationwide. I think that probably all coaches and GMs realize the vast amount of knowledge that can come from the overwhelming amount of data that gets collected. I think that they just don't get overwhelmed by it. It isn't a contest to see who is right or who is wrong.
  19. You get to think what you want - I appreciate that. I bet that we all have some sort of budget.
  20. You are correct. There is room for inclusion here though. it really doesn't have to be like we are dealing with two specifically different groups. Most players and coaches accept and respect the good work that the people collecting all of the data do. It doesn't have to be an either or debate. I have worked with a few athletes who have gone on to compete as professionals. As young adults, I found that they did not morph into something that they weren't. they still felt the same pressures and general feelings that they felt as athletes in high school. The stage was just a little bigger and the competition a little better. On a personal level, I'm so happy that I got to spend my time on the field, court, and dugout as opposed to being the one compiling the data. whatever floats your boat I say - room for both. All of my teams over the years tended to play better at home for the most part too.
  21. I would not argue that the Sox were giving some thought to the luxury tax threshold during this off season but I would be willing to bet that there is something other than age and cost that kept them from signing EE this winter. It's possible that he just isn't the type of player they were interested in for some other reasons and not simply $. In the end, it still looks like play money to me. What they want they are going to get.
  22. I'm with you- It really is all relative to the particular situation. If the best players in the world were competing against minor leaguers day in and day out, I would certainly agree that the likelihood of them choking would be very small and the likelihood of them coming up big in the clutch would be pretty good. Since we are talking about the best competing against the best, there will always be those guys that either get it done or not in very situations. Any player or coach in the dugout knows who the players are that you want on the frontline in the biggest situations.
  23. Blubber belly? Come on - You can't mean the new and improved version. You must be a trumannight - show me state! lol
  24. I will pick it up and read it. Francona will forever have a special place in my heart. I learned a lot from simply observing how he dealt with his players.
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