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  1. I don't disagree at all about the potential for decline here. I'm sure that the statistical evidence once again indicates that it is risky to sign any player older than 30 to a long term contract. I don't think that a degree in math is necessary to figure that one out. lol My entire premise with statistical data is that they are not always right. You can't take the human element out of the game. The more that it is done the more people will turn away from the game.
  2. For sure - for many athletes 32-33-34-35- can be extremely productive years.
  3. You said a lot here in a thoughtful way. As useful as any type of statistic is, they tend to tell only a part of the story. It is really all about the humans.
  4. I find this interesting too. Although shifts have been used for a long time now they certainly are used to a much greater extent. What confuses me quite a lot though is that there is a lot of clamor about doing something to reign them in. I'm am an old school guy but yet I have absolutely no problem with shifts. Maybe it will usher back in a time when hitters have to think about what they are doing as opposed to just trying to bash the ball. Robots and replay - Nope Shifts - sure bring them on.
  5. no one is questioning the relevance of how using how any data can help. Maybe i am misreading what players like Martinez and others are saying about the infusion or maybe intrusion of too much information being sent their way. For every player like JD Martinez there will be others who share his views that possibly too much emphasis is being placed on the data and the people gathering it as well. It is all useful but I guess I will just stick with what Martinez has to say.
  6. You cannot take the human element out of the game. At least I hope they don't. There have been numerous articles written over the course of this season about what a difference having real bats in the lineup can make directly quoting players who play the game. I think that there is of course real relevance to using available statistical data to help a team but it never trumps what is going on in the minds of men who actually are on the field playing the game. In many cases the guys who don't care what the data says in fact.
  7. ditto on the harper wish. not in Boston please.
  8. I like this one. I actually believe that a great deal of success in any sport at any level cannot be accomplished without a certain type of mental approach. It has never been just about the talent. If the players are serious with respect to the article in SI that I just read, it is good enough for me.
  9. I'm glad that you said probably here Moon. If the Red Sox had not signed JD Martinez simply because they assumed and hoped that everybody would have hit better this year just because, it would have been a foolish risk to take. I just finished reading the article about JD written in SI. I knew they I liked him and what he has brought to our team, now I know why I really like him. I like him just as much for what he does personally as I do for the ways in which he has helped our young players develop their hitting skills. It was a great read particularly if people can get by how he felt about the reasons Houston released him. I bet a clear majority of the payers playing the game have many of the same feelings that he has. Regardless of what the statistical odds say, it is possible to still get better.
  10. As silly as it is to think that JD Martinez is solely responsible for the hitting resurgence that our guys are experiencing, Personally I think that it is just as silly to think that they would all be having the years that they have had to date without him in the lineup. It is obvious that to a man his influence has been felt in a positive way, whether it is through the protection he provides or simply from the advice and coaching that he has given. It really is a good situation for all and not really worth arguing over something that once again cannot be proven.There are lots of things that can't be proven by the way. It doesn't make them wrong.
  11. You are probably right about the numbers. I certainly would never question the numbers. I am much more interested in what the players say and think with respect to having JD in the lineup as opposed to what the numbers say.
  12. No one is arguing with you here notin. if you are suggesting that I don't listen to alternative views, which you are, you are wrong - I do. I do not need everything proven to me with your concept of strong logic or rationale in order to believe it. There are always different ways of looking at things regardless of how right you think your personal opinions might be.
  13. Watching a guy like Butler for years now kind of makes me realize the talent it takes to get to the highest level. Dan Butler is a helluva baseball player - just not quite good enough.
  14. Of course it doesn't make it a fact. Once again - I don't need everything proven before I believe it.
  15. The fact that not everything can or even needs to be proven is ok with me.
  16. I think you are right. I can't speak for anyone else but when (if) I am working and I feel comfortable , relaxed, and happy I tend to do a better job at whatever it is I am doing. Most of my athletic endeavors lately have to do with golf and if I am in a team competition and I have a good solid partner, my game is better. There is less stress as well as less pressure on me to perform. It is apparent to me anyway that this is the way many of our guys feel with JD in the middle of that lineup. We are damn lucky to have him!
  17. JD Martinez's overall effect on the Red Sox offense is obvious to me. Putting him in either the third or fourth spot has definitely made our lineup much much stronger. As to what his presence in the lineup has meant with respect to the intangilbles, I am listening to and believing his teammates. They say that he has definitely helped them all be better hitters. That is good enough for me. Assuming that our current lineup minus JD would have performed as well this year without him, seems like it would have been just a little to risky a chance to take.
  18. You are probably right but I wouldn't want to be the guy who told him that. lol Did you see the size of his forearms? Linebacker.
  19. You are so right here. We used to call it - attitude vs aptitude - It is unbelievable how much influence just having the right mindset can affect an athlete's play.
  20. Lot of talk about bunting I guess but in reality the best hitters hit regardless of the shifts. they understand how to hit away from them so to speak. IMO it tends to allow for the cream to rise to the top. I'm really not interested in some duffers who can just hack away without thought. I love the guys who turn it into a science.
  21. Do we see a great deal of that right now? The Manager, umpire, arguments as they were seem to be a thing of the past. I'm ok with that which clearly proves that I am not reluctant to change.
  22. It isn't the umps per se but taking any part of the human experience from the game. We disagree - not a bad thing. I guess I could say that umps are an integral part of the game. The home plate ump goes away so do the rest of them. Robots can do what they do. I can live with it at MacDonald's I guess but not on the baseball field. Do we need an ump or even replay to tell us whether a ball is fair or foul? Probably not - technology can take care of that. And it really doesn't have anything to do with my feelings about change. Once these changes come, I will stop watching and I'm pretty sure that I won't be alone.
  23. Oh by the way, you want these .225 power hitters to be able to beat the shift, teach them to become better all around hitters or be happy with what you got.
  24. Great discussion here with some really good thoughts. For what it's worth, I do not feel that tampering with the game whether through rules changes or even the trying to get everything right attitude necessarily is advancing it. I'm sorry if it makes me appear reluctant to change (which I'm not) but I do not feel that the game has to undergo dramatic change in an effort to make a better product. It is a pretty good one just the way it is. I feel bad for those who don't embrace it as is but oh well. I also think that much of what is being done recently with respect to swing changes for instance is not new at all. A new language , yes I buy that, but that is about it. Someone feels really good I guess because they think that they have reinvented the wheel.
  25. I think that anyone who has lived in this century and the previous one Moon and been successful has not only seen but also embraced many changes. My feelings about baseball probably will not change with respect to anyone suggesting mechanizing it - as in robots of any kind. Baseball for me anyway has always been about people. It has evolved into a huge money maker for owners and players for sure but the more attempts to purify the game I think that you will see more and more people turning their backs on it. I believe that some of the changes that we have seen have been made to protect investments and to appeal to a huge audience that really doesn't have the patience to enjoy real baseball.
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