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  1. Bellhorn04
    Why did the Black Sox take so much heat for throwing the World Series, BTW? All they had to do was explain that it was a "subset of losing"...
  2. Bellhorn04
    Yeah, you two make a cute little tag team.
  3. Bellhorn04
    OK, they're all subsets of sucking. I guess the next question is, so what? If you don't think intentionally losing is a big difference from unintentionally losing, so be it. I disagree, obviously.
  4. Bellhorn04
    But the Angels have just been making bad decisions for a number of years now. There are always going to be losers in this zero sum game. And the Red Sox have been in that class themselves far too much over the last dozen years...
  5. Bellhorn04
    The only season I can think of that the Red Sox have ever tanked was 2020. And it seemed like the perfect time to do it, with a 60-game season and Sale and E-Rod and Cora out and rest of the post-2019 shitstorm... But I'll always have kind of a queasy feeling about that season and getting Mayer with the #4 pick. We've had other losing seasons of late, but this was the only one that felt like they were fine about it.
  6. Bellhorn04
    It's not so much offensive as misleading. To me it seems like an attempt to gloss over the huge difference-maker known as "intent"...
  7. Bellhorn04
    I hate tanking, I'd rather have an expensive flop, and I think a lot of other fans feel the same way.
  8. Bellhorn04
    "This is just a subset of that" would be downright offensive in many instances. "Being tortured and murdered is just a subset of dying." "Terminal cancer is just a subset of being sick." Nobody says these things.
  9. Bellhorn04
    Well, for starters I don't think much of the list of reasons. You somehow left out boxers throwing fights because they're paid or otherwise coerced to do so. And how is being overmatched throwing a fight?
  10. Bellhorn04
    You really seem to hate the idea that there's a big difference between trying to compete but sucking, and trying to suck. Is throwing a fight in boxing different from trying to win but getting beat? Is throwing a fight a "subset of losing"?
  11. Bellhorn04
    The idea of that kind of tanking is that you do get better, ya know.
  12. Bellhorn04
    Because he's a slippery one. As are you, on this issue. Brothers in arms, huh?
  13. Bellhorn04
    No, it isn't exactly what you said. Your whole point seems to be there isn't much difference between trying and sucking, and tanking. You've even suggested fans don't care either way.
  14. Bellhorn04
    Thank you. It's not that complicated.
  15. Bellhorn04
    Yes, shockingly enough, I do think a lot of fans care whether their team is trying to compete or not.
  16. Bellhorn04
    Not saying always, of course. Saying it was for the Cubs and the Astros.
  17. Bellhorn04
    What does that even mean, subset of sucking? Tanking is deliberately sucking. It's massively different from trying and sucking.
  18. Bellhorn04
    They struck gold twice. No, that does not support your point.
  19. Bellhorn04
    Of course. It was a gradual process.
  20. Bellhorn04
    No, it isn't. Tanking is a deliberate strategy.
  21. Bellhorn04
    Agreed, those 2 are perfect examples. But mvp seems to be denying that the Astros tanked.
  22. Bellhorn04
    So you're going to keep omitting #2 pick Bregman? "Not spending" can certainly be an integral part of tanking...
  23. Bellhorn04
    Not always - it can be both.
  24. Bellhorn04
    Theo's Cubs did the same. It was blatant in both cases and it worked.
  25. Bellhorn04
    Yeah, there's not much difference between not trying to win and trying not to win.
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