Bellhorn04
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Just one correction: the $3 billion is actually coming from "Strategic Sports Group", a consortium that includes Fenway Sports Group and numerous other investors including Steve Cohen. But I've come around to much the same view as you, that the Red Sox are not benefiting from being part of this group, but quite the opposite, they're being damaged by it.
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And 2024 definitely looks like a year to let the kids play.
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You don't see a contradiction in one saying they have a set budget and one saying they don't?
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Let's get the T-shirts printed up: 79 WILL BE JUST FINE
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It could be 5-10 teams getting 1 game worse. Astronomical range of possibilities. A mad rabbit hole to go down.
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79 wins and last place would be an improvement.
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The crazy thing is, Hugh, that on Winter Weekend Kennedy said they do have a set budget number, and Werner said that they don't. Kennedy: “We do have a set budget that we don’t talk about publicly, as to not tip our hand to our competitors. Werner: “In the end, we don’t have a line in terms of our payroll that we look at as much as trusting that Craig (Breslow) is going to deliver on his assurance that we’re going to be competitive.”
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I think all most hoped for was from 78 to 88ish, not 98ish.
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Feast your eyes on what our mighty leader Sam actually said: It probably will be lower than it was in 2023. I don’t know that for sure. We don’t talk about specific payroll numbers.
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Cheer up man. FanGraphs currently projects us to win 82 this year.
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The Orioles won't decide to spend as long as the Angelos family runs the team.
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Sam "Mr. Credibility" Kennedy
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We'll never know so we must speculate in accordance with our personal biases. My bias tells me it was an unusual number to pass on a seemingly golden opportunity because of family considerations.
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Yeah, I think that was what you'd call a 'puff piece' by Alex. Sunday Baseball Notes seems to be reserved for more pleasant stuff.
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Wow, was I poorly informed on that topic. And I'm getting too lazy to look everything up.
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All those guys signed extensions? Or did you think I said major trades?
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All that really matters right now is, if the Sox are 10th or lower in payroll 2 years in a row, it's unprecedented and it's a big deal.
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How many major extensions have the Rays actually handed out over the years? Longoria-now that was a beauty, but a long time ago. Jeffrey Springs-might work out OK. Wander Franco-not going to work out OK.
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And I will argue vociferously that it's the ranking that matters. Other teams are spending more because they have the money. Baseball revenues continue to grow. Market values of teams continue to grow. Ticket prices continue to grow. If the Red Sox payroll is staying in place... "One of these things is not like the others."
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And we're all licensed mind readers here LOL History shows that with the Red Sox, until 2023, Henry has always had a payroll near the top, and has generally used the first tax threshold as the rough budget limit. If Henry really intends to cut the payroll well below the tax line, he's in for a shitstorm from fans and media, maybe even other owners, that I can't see him wanting to incur. If the team continues to grow in market value and show fat profits, he'll be singled out as one of the guys who is trying to cheat the system by not spending.
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There are rumors floating around that Fenway Sports Group has had some financial losses in areas other than the Red Sox, and that this has a lot to do with the Red Sox payroll cutting.
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It's nothing for us to be concerned about.
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I'm obviously feeling very cynical about ownership these days. The unfortunate part is they keep justifying my cynicism on a regular basis...
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I get what you're saying, but he only waited too long if he passed on some good offers.
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No and no.
