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  1. Seriously? My agreement was on the AAV, not the length of the deal. I said the length of the deal was Below Market.
  2. Now this I have to question. Which pitchers, or even players, in Porcello's age group have gotten 4 year contracts in the last several years?
  3. I think the Porcello debate has been boiled down to two basic points of disagreement. 1) The pro-Porcello-deal side says the increased AAV of $20 million is offset by the relatively short length of the deal. 2) The pro-Porcello-deal side says if he pitches as well as he did in 2014 for the 4 years of the deal, it will be a good value contract.
  4. And a #1 role with the 2015 Red Sox.
  5. Yes and no. Porcello vs. Homer Bailey: Porcello - higher AAV-yes, a new level for AAV. Bailey - 6 years vs. 4 years for Porcello. Bailey - $105 million vs. $82.5 million for Porcello. Also (not that it means much, but you brought it up) Porcello is a number 1 on his own team now.
  6. As much as I like Nava, a guy in his position can't afford to get off to another terrible start like this.
  7. Pinch running for Ortiz was the book move there. It's weird though, it seems like most times we do it we get burned on it.
  8. Man, WTF is up with the RISP. Didn't we suck all last year with RISP too? Sure is taking a long time to 'return to the norm', the old schooler in me says bitterly.
  9. I've already agreed that Porcello is the first guy with his profile to make $20 million. In spite of that it's still a reasonable deal because of all the other arguments presented here, including the FanGraphs article projecting him for a 6 year $108 million free agent payday.
  10. I'm sorry but I really don't understand the question exactly. But WAR is the metric if I had to pick one.
  11. In 2014 a guy named Eric Stults had an ERA of exactly 4.3 for San Diego in 176 innings (the 4.3 ERA is why I picked him). His FanGraphs WAR was 0.1.
  12. You've been using WAR a lot here, which is really good. But ERA is not a reliable measure, and you're mixing and matching new school with old school. Like I said, Porcello's WAR says he has been pitching better than a 4.3 ERA.
  13. But you shouldn't be equating a 2.5 WAR with a 4.3 ERA. A 2.5 WAR indicates someone who has been pitching better than a 4.3 ERA would suggest. In Porcello's case some of that ERA with Detroit was attributable to bad defense.
  14. Fair enough. Historically, it's been very difficult for pitchers of Lester's age to maintain their performance for long. He could be an exception, certainly. I think Epstein said something about thinking Lester could age like Pettitte.
  15. Porcello was showing a lot of improvement in 2013, before the breakout season in 2014.
  16. With Lester's contract there is no potential upside. You're basically praying like hell he can maintain his current level going forward. With Porcello there is some potential upside because of his age and trending. There's potential downside too, of course. Doing comparisons involves a lot of different factors. Lester's contract broke through a barrier because it was by far the most money ever given to a guy who has not clearly been a #1.
  17. I think you can make a pretty good case that Porcello's extension is more team-friendly than Bailey's was.
  18. What about Homer Bailey? 6 years and 105 million. That's 17.5 million a year, and over 20 million more in guaranteed money.
  19. Seriously folks, stop laying abuse on each other.
  20. They haven't been clutch. But seriously, isn't hitting with RISP supposed to be one of those things that eventually returns to the norm?
  21. Masterson hasn't been bad. 4 of his 5 starts have been decent.
  22. I honestly don't think anybody can say anything about Porcello they haven't already said. How about this-from now on you can only post about Porcello on the days he pitches?
  23. Chase Headley with 7 errors so far - that's weird.
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