Bellhorn04
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Maybe what Henry and DD decided was they couldn't re-sign both Kimbrel and Kelly, they were only going to spend on one closer type.
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Over, of course. But I'm not really getting your point. Mine is, how do we know the Sox are passing on all of the 4 guys I mentioned until those guys sign elsewhere?
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It's premature to say that with Kimbrel, Britton, Robertson and Ottavino all still out there.
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It might be, but I wouldn't bet a bundle on it. There is a lot to play out over the next year.
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a) Henry permitted the team to go more than 40 million over the threshold in 2018, and they are already close to being there again this year. The man is not averse to paying some tax. He knows the closing of the window might happen after this season, with Sale, Porcello, Bogaerts and JDM possibly all gone. c) He's 69 years old. Sometimes age can play a role in how we look at things. All that said I don't expect him to throw all economic concerns to the wind by any means. But I certainly won't be surprised if he authorizes the signing of a guy like Ottavino.
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It's really hard to say what's going on. We've heard rumors about the Sox being open to trades to create payroll room. We've also heard rumors about them remaining in touch with Kimbrel and being in on Ottavino. I think they're watching the market and probably keeping an eye on the Yankees too. At the same time there's no denying we've got serious luxury tax issues, unless JH finally just says 'Ah screw it, you only live once, let's go for it again.'
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I agree. But why do you see Pedroia's extension as too big now? Porcello's was 4 years, 82.5 million - 20.625 avg. Pedroia's was 7 years, 100 million - 14.286 avg. Pedroia's was longer, obviously, but with a considerably lower AAV, and the total was only 17.5 million more.
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Well said Flap.
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I think it's a little early to say Henry is shutting the door on spending. If he was really intent on shutting the door I don't think he would have approved the Eovaldi signing. And there are still a lot of unsigned free agents.
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How about the Porcello contract - was that too big?
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That's kind of contradictory.
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I think they should probably do something to tie the revenue sharing to payroll spending. There should be disincentives for pocketing the revenue sharing and tanking.
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The fact is there are some pretty clear signs that Kimbrel is in decline. 3 of his last 4 seasons he's had an fWAR of 1.5 or less. And he's not getting any younger. He's definitely durable and he gets the job done most of the time. But he's probably not going to earn his next contract.
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The thing about a guy like Moreland is that he's sort of a neutral asset. He makes 6 million or so and that's about exactly what he's worth. There's no surplus value to appeal to another team. For a team like us that has title aspirations and is also very rich, it doesn't make a lot of sense to trade him. We might have to eat a couple mill, so we've gained 4 mill in budget space but lost 6 mill of player value. We shouldn't have to do things like that.
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Your ideas are good for richer teams like us, but they don't fit in with the overall desire for parity. In theory parity is good for the game because it gives more teams a chance and gives more fans a reason to stay interested.
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You're right, it was very very big. It was Bobby Jenks big.
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Don't be nervous, honestly. Lots of time left and a lot of unsigned relievers, not to mention trade possibilities. Last year this time we were getting antsy about JD Martinez. Turned out OK.
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It is good. And my hat's off to the people who support the team financially, including the folks here that attend actual games.
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I just can't see the logic in the idea that they decided to allocate $6 million + to Steve Pearce and zero to the pen with Kimbrel and Kelly departing. I don't buy that for a millisecond.
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And damn, it's a good thing the Dodgers didn't win Games 1, 2 and 4 of the World Series!
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There will be more than Barnes and Brasier at the back of the pen. You know it, I know it, we all know it. That's some argument about the fragile 8 game lead BTW.
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Honestly I think everyone knows exactly what you're saying and agrees with it. It would be crazy to have a championship contending team like the 2019 Red Sox should be, and to completely neglect the back end of the bullpen. Some people just think we can address that need without spending a further bundle of money. I'm quite sure this is the foremost thing on DD's agenda right now.
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Sobering, isn't it, when you consider what he's looking for. (I guess sobering is kind of a bad pun when it comes to Harper.)
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If he's healthy.
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There's nothing to learn, honestly. Pedroia's deal looks bad because he got injured. He certainly won't be the last player whose contract ends up looking bad because they got injured.
