Bellhorn04
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I'd say roughly equal. But to me the back end of Mookie's deal is even scarier. Mookie will be 28 when his deal starts and 40 when it ends.
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And some argue that speed is a huge part of Mookie's game and that will be where he declines.
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We've got A-Rod's deal with the Yankees and Pujols's deal with the Angels as more evidence that signing guys into their 40's is not a great idea.
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Yep. But even Manny's deal was "only" 8 guaranteed years. Mookie's is a full 50% longer than that.
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Your position is at least as speculative as mine. Tom Werner's comments after Mookie signed the extension said nothing about short-term constraints. He talked about the length of the deal and how sketchy the results of such long deals have been etc.
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It was far from impossible.
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Yes, like the way you insist on blaming Mookie's departure on DD.
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I wonder if there are any Dodgers fans thinking "Hmmm...it would be nice to have the option of David Price starting games instead of Gonsolin & May..."
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If we want to go all anecdotal on Mookie, the one that stings a bit, and came from Mookie himself, is that when the Red Sox first offered him an extension, it was for $200 million - for 8 years I believe - he says he was very close to taking it, but his mother gave him a little talk about not acting hastily and not acting on emotion, or words to that effect.
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You're a more studious observer than I was. I assumed Jeter was good because he didn't make many errors.
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No, it doesn't dismiss that. But it clearly contradicts the idea that it's so bad that guys will not play in Boston even if Boston offers the most money.
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Jeter is Exhibit A for why the eye test alone ain't enough. Like many, I'm sure, (including Gold Glove voters) I was shocked to hear how bad his advanced metrics were.
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The facts do not support the premise, of course. David Price is the most recent example of a player who is not only African-American, but had some prior issues with the Red Sox, David Ortiz at least, and wasn't exactly a favorite of Boston fans. But $217 million persuaded him to play in Boston for 7 years. He also declined an opportunity to opt out. And yes, I realize that decision was influenced by the fact that he wouldn't have gotten as much on the market. But that's the whole point. The money was enough to keep him in Boston. Price is not all about the money, either, as he proved by opting out of the 2020 season because of COVID concerns.
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Tie series, baby.
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Hard to say now because of the pandemic factor.
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Alright Rays, nice rally. 3 runs in 4 innings off Dave Roberts's parade of lesser pitchers.
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I think he would have signed an extension for $400 million, but no less.
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The Red Sox have been in the top 4 in MLB payrolls every year since Henry bought the team. That's why I refuse to criticize them about this.
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Way to keep it classy Larry!
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Good job. This also gives us a new category for the Fun With Baseball Names thread.
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I hear you.
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But some of the guys at Clancy's might say that $400 million is too much for any player. I was actually in a bar in Boston at the end of July in 2005, and there was a lot of talk about Manny being traded at the deadline because he wasn't happy in Boston or was being a malcontent or whatever. And most of the people I talked to were saying they should get rid of him.
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I'm guessing he has the same 400 million reasons as anyone else who says that.
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The one difference being that the Dodgers did very nearly lose the NLCS.
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A team that escapes near-certain doom like the Dodgers did in the NLCS can be tough to beat after that. The 04 Red Sox were down 0-3 in the ALCS and then ran off 8 straight. The 07 Red Sox were down 1-3 in the ALCS and then ran off 7 straight. There are plenty of other examples. So can there be momentum in the playoffs? Kimmi?
