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How did they become less diligent? Their 3.95 P/PA statistic you just posted is way above the league average 3.75 number. That's what contradicts your initial assertion, which has no statistical validity. A slight drop-off (which could be expected given the loss of Youkilis) does not justify the idea of the team's approach changing.

Still top three in P/PA and BB for the second half of the season, contradicting your initial assertion. Even if July "bolsters the totals" they count.

This is correct.

This is not true at all. The Red Sox were a top 3 team in P/PA and BB all season long in 2011, the problem is this season, with Marlon Byrd, Cody Ross, Mike Aviles and Salty all in the same lineup, and they're all noted hackers.

And take off the tinfoil hat too.

What did you expect? The team currently has a bunch of hackers out there. Until the the lineup is complete and Gonzalez starts hitting, they'll be middling in P/PA.

You just quoted a post speaking about the thumb injury in your prior post.

Buchholz has a remaining option, the one who doesn't have an option left is Doubront.

The problem isn't bringing Cook up, it's bringing him up to remove Bard from the rotation, sending him back to the BP. That's short-sighted, and would mean bailing on the Bard as an SP project, without reason to boot. Cook to the rotation for Buchholz makes much more sense, but there's still no guarantee Cook will handle the ALE.

Usually when pitchers lose the amount of velocity Moyer lost, they are done as Major Leaguers, but he's just an example of how unpredictable the game of baseball is.

No, i'm serious. I remember reading a story about Moyer after he signed with the Phillies in which they detailed his journey through MLB. He used to throw mid-90's, then had a throwing arm injury (shoulder iirc) and became the soft tosser we know today.

He's pitching in AAA. Not the AL East. Give me a break. And it's a small sample. I believed from the beginning that he would constitute good depth, and maybe even an option to hold down the 5th spot out of ST, but seriously. And this is also very funny: You've been saying all along that "this is a rebuilding year" and "the Sox should focus on cleaning house and long-term gain". Yet short-term gain from moving Bard to the bullpen is the main factor in your personal pining for Cook, ignoring the possible long-term benefit of converting Bard to a starter. Be consistent.

Funny that Moyer is actually an example of pitchers losing velocity due to injury.

You couldn't be more far from the truth. The first thing any throwing arm injury or lower body injury saps from a pitcher is velocity, command being the secondary issue. I honestly have no idea where you're coming up with this stuff.

That year his average fastball velocity dropped considerably by the way.

If you're hurt, the first thing that goes is velocity. It's not that you have to drop velocity to throw strikes, you just don't have velocity, as evidenced by his 2011 outings. You're reaching a bit here.

Wait, what? In 2007, his average fastball velocity was 91.9 MPH topping out at 97 MPH. In 2008, his average fastball velocity was 91.8 topping out at 97 MPH.

So 2008 magically disappeared?

What's funny is that a lot of the people pining for Cook now are the same people who thought "Short Order Cook" was a "stiff" that should "never make the roster for a team like the Red Sox". It's kind of funny, but also kind of sad.

Buch's velocity is way down compared to his prior two starts. Not good to see.

My God you're an insufferable homer.

Smoltz was recovering from an elbow injury that didn't allow him to throw 100 pitches per game.

My recollection is a bit off, but way more accurate than repeater guy: Here's the log for that 9th inning against Tampa: Top 9th: Tampa Bay - C. Thomas in right field - J. Keppinger hit for S. Rodriguez - J. Keppinger singled to shallow center - R. Brignac struck out swinging - D. Jennings singled to shallow right, J. Keppinger to third - C. Pena walked, D. Jennings to second, J. Keppinger scored on wild pitch - E. Longoria singled to shallow left, D. Jennings scored, C. Pena to second - D. Schlereth relieved J. Verlander - E. Johnson hit for M. Joyce - E. Johnson walked, C. Pena to third, E. Longoria to second - J. Valverde relieved D. Schlereth - B. Zobrist singled to shallow center, C. Pena and E. Longoria scored, E. Johnson to second - S. Vogt flied out to left - J. Lobaton walked, E. Johnson to third, B. Zobrist to second - J. Keppinger grounded into fielder's choice, J. Lobaton out at second That and the Yankees game in which Verlander got smacked around a bit are his only two starts in which Detroit has lost. His opening day start doesn't even count, because he had 105 pitches in the first game of the season. Pushing a guy up to 120 pitches on the season's first game is idiotic.There hasn't been a single game Detroit has lost this season because Leyland "took out Verlander while they were leading". Seriously, really, honestly, stop making stuff up.

My recollection is a bit off, but way more accurate than repeater guy: Here's the log for that 9th inning against Tampa: Top 9th: Tampa Bay - C. Thomas in right field - J. Keppinger hit for S. Rodriguez - J. Keppinger singled to shallow center - R. Brignac struck out swinging - D. Jennings singled to shallow right, J. Keppinger to third - C. Pena walked, D. Jennings to second, J. Keppinger scored on wild pitch - E. Longoria singled to shallow left, D. Jennings scored, C. Pena to second - D. Schlereth relieved J. Verlander - E. Johnson hit for M. Joyce - E. Johnson walked, C. Pena to third, E. Longoria to second - J. Valverde relieved D. Schlereth - B. Zobrist singled to shallow center, C. Pena and E. Longoria scored, E. Johnson to second - S. Vogt flied out to left - J. Lobaton walked, E. Johnson to third, B. Zobrist to second - J. Keppinger grounded into fielder's choice, J. Lobaton out at second