Big f... blunder. Counting on him to turn it around this year and trading Shaw turned out real good. I was pissed when they traded Shaw. Love having a healthy Thorn in the pen, but we ended up with a real mess. Just ask yourself what would we have to give up to get Shaw back. Not a good move. When you unload any type of young talent, you better make sure you KNOW what that players potential might be. Everyone keeps talking about Devers and rightly so, be if he is our third baseman of the future, we could have still used Shaw at first or DH. After giving up a lot of our young talent for Sale, which right now is huge success, why on earth would you trade another up and comer like Shaw when we could have had Thorn for someone else, or just don't make the deal.. Really sucks, because right now we are in a bind for a power hitter wether people want to admit it or not. Hanley can't hold Ortiz's jock. He is a joke. Goes on a tear for a weak and everyone loves him. He is a dog and not a money player. He is a screw up and not a team player, but he's ours. I for one believe in pitching and defense which is why we still have a shot, but with all the money ownership has invested right now, anything less than a deep run will be considered a failure. It's all about evaluating talent and using your head. Why do you think the Pats are so great, they turn over a lot of players with everyone wondering why did they let that player go. Look at the results. Talent evaluation.. Team players.. " A f.. plan"