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Jeez 6-1 and we look more listless than the Jays have looked....the Jays.....a team that has looked like it was on life support from day 1.

That 9th inning was handled very poorly as well. You have absolutely got to tie the game at home before you try to win it. There are so many more ways to score from third than second with less than two outs. The Jays would have been forced to bring the infield in for one thing. For all the talk of Farrell being intimidating to ballplayers generally and pitchers particularly so far at least he either does not see where this team is going (hard to imagine) or has not seen fit to try to redirect their efforts. I can see letting them have their heads all the way up to a point where he has given them so much rope that they have hung themselves. That team should have reached the end of that rope today. So if Farrell has been waiting for the right opportunity, I would say that this is it.

The season is young. Ells might improve some. However I don't see him doing enough to get a stratospheric offer from anybody and I don't see anybody touching 6 years with a ten foot pole. Does not matter that much what Crawford got. If he improves I would make him an offer of the non-stratospheric variety. If he does not improve I am not sure I would even make him an offer. As far as how much money some of them spend, one thing to keep in mind as that their careers end at a pretty young age on a relative basis. You have to remember that the PA is always hanging right over their shoulders pushing them to squeeze every last dime out of the system that they can. I even think that in baseball that pressure is more compelling than in other sports. The PA really tries to take the position of the guys in the adjoining lockers to yours as well so that can be a good deal of pressure. Even the life style forced onto them can be what we might think is extravagant. I think is was Lou Merloni that once did about a fifteen minute thing about how the clubhouse boys are paid and what you expect to get from them and what they expect to get in return. He went through how things work in a visiting clubhouse and how they work at home. It was kinda' interesting because this is not stuff we as fans think about very much. So anyway, there is supposed to be a spread out there every day and depending on when the game is played (day or night) and whether there is a double header, the menu will change. Even for the 25th guy on the roster it usually works out to something like $150 per game when you are in the visiting locker room. This includes tip. Some of the wealthier players contribute much more but it is sort of expected that they contribute much more. Granted the only reason you might find peanut butter and jelly sandwiches on the table might be because somebody loves them so much that they want them there for a quick sugar fix. The stuff is all really top shelf. Still though you have the 25th guy contributing $450 for a three game series and the guys with the real dough-ray-me contributing as much as $1,000 or more for a three game series. Yes there is a per diem but it does not get close to what they guys spend when you consider first having to take care of the clubhouse boys. Anyway there are many influences pulling at these guys to spend even if they are not "spendy" by nature.

Can't really say comparing Naps to Overbay makes any sense. Nobody would have been trying to weigh that alternative before the season. Those two players are not in the same place regardless of Overbay's performance to date. Should we have kept Overbay instead of Carp was where the decision was, not Overbay or Naps. From a value perspective even if he falls apart completely Overbay will likely look like a better value than Naps just cause nobody is paying Overbay anything.

It is funny how lots has changed between this year and last but there was a time when the Sox were disciplined enough as hitters to maintain their offensive approach for entire games. Now I will grant you that the offensive approach they had with those powerhouse teams was different than the approach I think they should have now but they were uniformly patient and committed to a "team" offensive approach for entire games and for most games of an entire season. It has been a long time since the Red Sox have been that kind of team. Taking last year out of the picture....this year they start with a sound offensive approach including being patient at the plate. They really start hitting an all cylinders when Ortiz comes back and they apply the same offensive approach now with that one/two punch that everybody wants in the middle of the order. Offense bananas at that point. Then they all jumped off the wagon and the offensive approach changed completely. Some of them jumped off and started trying to solve their own individual problems...the wrong way I might add. Not surprisingly, they were no longer being patient at the plate as well with almost all of them jumping at pitches they should be ignoring or trying to foul off. First I agree with UN on the lineup with one maybe two mods. I prefer Nava but either Carp or Nava have got to be in this lineup right now. Had all I can take of Mr Gomes. Hopefully being inserted at the top of the lineup Mr Vic will be convinced to go back to what he was doing at the start of the season. He would have been a perfect lead off hitter then and he has got to go back to that to be a perfect lead off hitter now. Depending on who we are playing and who the opposing pitcher is, I might even try an outfield of Vic in Center with both Carp and Nava in the game, sitting Ells. Clearly there will be times when Ross will be the better choice at Catcher and I am sure UN knows that as well. This will not fix easily but Farrell has got to grab it by the throat NOW

Farrell may not want to admit it in his presser but the offensive approach on this team changed over the course of the last couple weeks from what hit was and has not been right since then. Once things start going badly it is hard to get back on the right track. You have to have a whole team committed to an offensive approach and they have sort of gone off into their own little corners lately battling their own personal demons. But many of those demons are the same...just manifesting themselves differently with different players. Farrell saying he did not want to take the bat out of Drews hands but it is not like Drew has been on fire. He has been better...no question but not on fire. No outs and a guy on 2nd you have got to get that run home especially playing at home. Farrell can't make that excuse playing at home where you first have to tie the game. Not the place to try to win it...not there.

Well if they did not have enough evidence telling them this is s***,,,they should have it after today. If they want to feed us this "Its only one game" and "just gotta go out their tough again tomorrow" ******** fine...I don't care what they feed us. They better not be kidding themselves in that clubhouse.

Complete FAIL from Manager on down except for the battery of Buch and Ross. Ross and Taz....not so much. At the plate....FAIL....Manager....FAIL Harsh but when it is so obvious that you have lost a game, literally lost it....just about everybody has to contribute.

You have got to be s***ing me. Jays did not win this game.....we lost it!

Jeez at least move the runner over

That is the Cabrera we are used to this year.

There was no reason for Taz to try the curve there...not for a strike anyway. Really stupid

Ump giving Ross a break

Way to go Ross.... now put two fingers down again and I will cut one of them off!

Hell it may not matter that way Taz is going

Gomes should not have hit in that spot. Farrell probably did not want to show a lack of confidence in him but he should have not been hitting there

Why even chance throwing the curve for a strike there.

I am growing weary of Mr Gomes

Why is Ortiz even offering at that s***......Whyyyyyyyy!!!!!!

E-6. Ells scores

Kawasaki caught in the wrong gear.

Come on Vic what the f*** are you swinging at.

Gibbons is so stupid. That was an amazingly stupid move 700.

Finally...hopefully Oliver continues to groove pitches down main st

Gibbons makes it easy for me to hate him. Showalter with a gimp