Well first thank you for taking the time to input the numbers, I appreciate that.
Secondly, if I take great value in CERA, I see in 2011 2/7 on the list pitched better to Salty, 2/7 were very close and 3/7 pitched considerably worse to Salty. This all seems to support what I've been saying, Salty did not hurt everyone's era.
The 2012 numbers still show there is no across the board trend. 1 pretty close, one does better with Salty and one three much worse with Salty.
A closer look at 2012 though reveals why I don't think you can trust cera, especially when it's not over an entire season. Your numbers, which I trust, say that Padillia is a 2.75 era pitcher with Shop. Can you, or anyone, in all honesty tell me if they paired up for 100 innings Padillia is a .275 pitcher? No way, which reveals that a back up catcher can easily catch 30 - 40 innings and have a much better chance of missing one his weaker performances. Consequently when a guy catches well over 100 innings the chances of catching a stinker goes way up. So while I do not put a lot of credence in CERA I have even a tougher time comparing a catcher catching 140 innings to bone catching 35 innings.
I just can't see how anyone could think Lesters 2012 is directly tied to Salty, and see that Lester pitched 3.77 to him the year before.... I think Lester carreer era is 3.67.
All that said , I appreciate you acknowledging that the 2011 numbers are not comparing the same staff's. And while I am sure we still disagree I realize we both used facts..... to formulate our opinions on how much a catcher effects the eras. I see your arguments as valid, well thought out and respect them. Thanks for the conversation .