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Bingo! It is not prudent and mostly it is not sane at all IMO after all this mess. As Coco said, there's no way that Theo is coming back but I just wanted to put my question in perspective.

Exactly!... It goes beyond the country, business size or vertical industry. Private Business often execute this way.

Seems like A700 and I have crystal ball huh!

Trust me, I was a huge fan of CC even when he used to play for TB. I don't need to look at stats in order to know that he was the man that I wanted for Boston (As almost any fan like A700 wanted at that point). But again, why bring a 142 M player in order to occupy 6-9 spot? why? As simple fans, maybe we don't care about the money, and still we probably would've brought the guy even occupying the 6th spot, but as a owner? It doesn't make sense. It is a lot of money. That's my point E1. About Markakis sure, maybe he was not the best example, but still believe that he wouldn't cost 142 MUSD, not even close. About his arbitration thing, Pence was in a similar situation just like Nick but the Phillies could make the deal, we? Of course no, we don't have the pieces or something, excuses, excuses, excuses; I almost forget that we can't make those kind deals.

I have a question for all those Theo fans... At this point and after all this speculation and mess around this team and after all the things that the FO, players and media have said in the last couple of weeks, Do you consider sane and prudent that Theo finishes his one year contract left in Boston?

I expect he to be gone with Lackey or someone of his busts. As I said, why JH is saying a lot sweet things about Theo? Read between lines!

51%?... I'd make the deal in a heartbeat...

mmmm.... I'm not sure what you want to probe making that list and then compare each other player's WAR. I just find it worthless. As A700 said, you don't need to look at sabermetrics in order to know that Pujols, Gonzalez, Bautista, Votto, Cabrera, etc. are great players. Which one is better? Well, It depends on what you want to look at -- RBI, OPS, WAR, BA, 2B, RAR, etc., etc., etc. -- and still, I find it worthless, since you can go to the tables and figure it out Where I find it interesting the use of stats for example, are in criterial-situations, like judging whether Carl Crawford was a good signing or not by the the Red Sox, after and before the season. Regarding on this situation, I'd put for example the next question: why would you like to sign a player who would play/played at the middle/bottom of the order great part of the season (regardless you're plenty of LHHs) and who gonna cost you 142 M/7yrs --Sure, he put .296/.337/.444/.781 in his career in TB and had a 6.1 WAR in 2010 TB -- when you could sign a type-guy like Markakis who has even better BA/OBP/SLG/OPS after 6 years with the O's-- just saying a name --and who arguably would cost substantially less than Crawford and who could delivery decent numbers without all the risks associated in the transaction(financial, time, adaption, etc.) and mostly when your FA record at big tickets is horrible? -- maybe JH had a little bit of these arguments in order to say what he said about CC --. If you were the Phillis or SF you arguably could have a case, but would you have a case with the Red Sox? I'm not sure. In this case your arguments could come from advanced-stats and the way you see the game... But in the end, this is like religion or politics, nobody would be completely right at all. Sure we'd spend a lot fun, that's for sure. BTW.. As a fan? I liked CC before the season, these days? I'm not sure about him anymore. As a Owner? I would go for a guy like Markakis in order to play in the mid/bottom of the order and I'd better improve other areas like our pitching-depth/BP/rotation and even the farm.

I like stats (simple and advanced) and I believe that they are very supportive but as I said, they are not the panacea. My buddies love using advanced stats, and they actually use them very well. Nevertheless, sometimes they are terrible noticing some aspects (strategy and tactic) of the game while it is playing. Balance is the key. As I said, sabermetrics are not that difficult to use or apply, you just need to interpret and correlate well the meaning of the stats for a given situation, that's all. What I really find interesting in advanced stats is how you can create your own methods/models like Markov (simulate the impact of Each event) or Heipp ("plus-one" method) did with their estimators in Linear weight, for example. Anyway... I still like BA.

I envy you man! Got a lot of friends in Cancun! I love El Caribe Mexicano! Have fun! :thumbsup:

Anytime, I can help you with your Spanish my friend. I think that I'm pretty good at it.

I think that I don't explain myself well . Sure, I like RBI, OBP, OPS, etc. ... but BA is what I like the most since it isolates and rates one of the most incredible and toughest abilities in baseball and in all sports (to hit). But that's me!

welcome!

E1 is trying to to say that I said that; and I didn't even talk about this I said that RBI correlates better with runs scored by a team than OPS/SLG/OBP. that's all.

again, Who is talking about player value?. Show me where I'm talking about player value.

sorry man! my bad! but .... do you think that he is the worst pitcher in 2011? IMO, he is.

You were who said that "RBI are not strongly correlated with runs." and i said that it is not true. I already showed you. Sorry E1, I already made my point. I don't want to disrespect you but I can't find more elements in order to show, what I already tried showed you. and it is not what I was talking about either.

hahahahah E1, are u defending Lackey now? C'mon man! You don't even need to look at stats in order to make a call. He is terrible. IMO he is done!

E1, why do you like twist things? I'm just saying that RBI correlates better RS than OPS/OBP/SLG, I already showed you.

As I said, Unbelievable!