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IYO, Why did Philly give to Pap that kind of contract?, hell, they already had the right piece, didn't they?, and like some people around here say, considerable cheaper (30/3), right?. That takes me to the next question, IYO, How much money was Madson asking to Philly, that made 'em turn around so quick and sign Pap? IYO, How much is he asking in the neighborhood? Let's say that he is asking your 30/3; plus an option of +-10. (still, if this were the case, I wouldn't get it, why the hell wouldn't Philly take this deal, I would commence to think that he was asking something more substantial, maybe +-10 M more, I'm not sure...) If true^, Let's go to the scenarios... If after 3 Y, they don't make valid the option, what would be the sign? My guess, he would've shitted the bed. If true, you would be wasting your 30 M and not saving 20 M, otherwise, you would be giving him something around Pap's contract, considering the option and maybe one more year. If this were the case I would like to see Pap's numbers at that time. IMO Pap would be likely making better numbers, sure at an arguably inferior division. As a fan, sure, bring Madson, keep spending that way, why not. As the owner, I'm not sure this is a good idea. This wouldn't be consistent regarding on Paps departure.

As simple as that. He said that He didn't want to enter into a match-up-offer-war. If Boston had put the offer first, let's say something around 40/3 and an option for 15, another thing would have been. Sure, if he had had two equal offers at the same time, yes, other aspects beyond the money he would have considered. It is clear that Boston didn't want to pay him because they don't have enough budget to face this 2012 (clogged in the books and a lot of holes to fill) or they are thinking to move Bard to that spot or simply they have another strategy to face this 2012 offseason. BL they simply didn't want him, whatever the reason was. We'll see.

Interesting, Elk.

Hell, I would like to know how does it feel.

Agree, in the worst scenario is likely you were committing/risking only 1 season, assuming Pap performs terrible 1 season and the other guy puts something around Pap's career numbers during his tenure. (Unlikely to me) Where is the risk more likely? on Pap or on this guy? IMO, on the other guy, he has not proved s*** in your environment. Again, Papelbon is already proved in your environment, is not injury prone, he is mature (not old, still young, experienced) and as I said, he has arguably been driving at Mo's highway (career). Hell, how much money have they wasted at FA? 1/4 BUSD?... and you will skimp and substitute your best piece in BP for this? and mostly, at this price?. As I said, You would be saving cents and spending dollars if this guy or other at this price (+-35/3) fails. They'd better put Bard, if the money was the driver (let Pap walks), otherwise I wouldn't get it.

If everything goes right next year, I will be in Fenway Park for once and for all. Then, maybe I'll go to Arlington, Tx as well since it is the closets park from Monterrey. It's about 8-10 hours from here, driving.

If he puts something around Colon's numbers will be interesting since he is 30 YO. Yes, I wouldn't pay him neither lot of money nor long term contract again. First, I need to see how good he performs.

BTW if he comes back and put spectacular or at least solid numbers, will be interesting how the FO would be managing his case since he will be a FA in 2013. Plus He is 30.

D-K is expected to return somewhen in June, isn't he? Yes, he is not reliable at this point, but maybe and just maybe, he could emerge and be a decent 4-5 or at least a good depth arm, in the second half of the season.

I don't know him very much in order to emit an opinion, but after reading the posts from the old school guys of this forum, seems that he is the adequate guy, plus I just listened the press conference and he sounded genuine and even he has a lot road walked, he looked like he just got his first job, so... I feel kind of confident about his arrival.

I just pictured that in my mind and If Tek is a fossil Wake is just in the process to become petroleum. LoL

Really?

Actually he jokes almost all the time, the thing is that no many people see him that way.

Pretty impressive ... the fans in Latin America are quite the same....

Exactly. You would be saving cents and spending dollars.