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I like the way this guy see business, plain and simple. http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20111114&content_id=25970748&vkey=news_bos&c_id=bos

Thanks E1, I appreciate you see me that way. Now, about the topic, I'm agree that we have an elite/talented nucleus in our current team, nevertheless some red flags surround that core as well, and I think that we must see both sides of the coin. For example, I see red flags/warnings/opportunities/challenges on: Carl Crawford (unlikely he performs as poor as he did, but who really knows, he better put the numbers.) Opportunity Kevin Youkilis (will he be/stay healthy, will he play as everyday 3B, if no, who is gonnna share the load, how often?) Warning Buchholz (is he going to be the same Buch, will he stay healthy?) Warning Bard (if he takes the full time job as a closer, is he ready? If no, who is coming? How much is he gonna cost?) Red Flag. Aceves (if he takes the 5th spot, is he ready?) Challenge. Plus... We have a limited budget if they don't blow the cap, and we need to cover several holes with this priority... SP BP arms Pitching depth DH/RH OF Closer ........................ Manager Coaching Staff Plus..... Ben Cherington is a mystery to me as GM We can guess a lot of things and put a lot of scenarios but the warnings/opportunities/red flags/challenges are undeniable out there. I've been pointing those issues and maybe I could sound like pessimist or something, but we must point as well our areas of opportunity .

I just figured out what condescension means. Not at all was the intention of my post E1, not at all. if it sound that way, I want to clarify that it wasn't my intention. Hope you accept my apologies if I offended you in someway. Though, I truely believe what I said. Business run that way, don't you think?

Sounds fair to me. I only wish nobody eats Cerington's lunch by then as in Pap's case (IMO). And don't get me wrong, I don't wish any bad to Cherington or our team. We'll see.

Somehow This thread made me want to listen the eye of the tiger song by survivor

Exactly. On the other hand, if the Red Sox really belive that he can bounce back as us, they wouldn't trade him, otherwise they should be exploring those avenues.

This is the only reason I'd trade Youk. Seems like the tendency goes that way regarding on his healthy and conditioning status.

And mostly since he gonna pitch against likely sub-power offenses.

They didn't even put a formal proposal.

Sure, It's early to judge and hard to know what Ben the boob is planing or executing. BUT... the more I read the more I think that he is not focused in our main concerns (SP, BP arms, pitching depth, RH OF/DH, etc) Seems like he is focused in the manager, Sizemore, Theo's compensation and more of the manager thing. Yes, I hope that he fills as soon as possible our holes. But what I hope the most is that he at least has already a solid strategic plan in order to face this 2012 offseason, mostly since seems like we won't go over the cap.

It's hard to say how a pitching/hitting coach could perform as a manager. As long as he can handle the egos, implement discipline and take the best from each player is good for me.

Youk's career numbers are great. No doubt about it. But... What do you really think about his tendency as a MLB player? Do you think that he is gonna stay healthy and will perform as a everyday 3B and put at least something around his career numbers the next couple of years? If the answer is yes, I wouldn't trade him, no way... Unfourtunatly, I don't see that scenario. IMO Santana's career is more likely going up and Youk's just the opposite. I don't see this trade happening, anyway. He will stay in Boston and I wish he can put at least something around .270/.380/.800 and MOSTLY stay HEALTHY .

I will point what I think is good or wrong in this team. If you want to debate about some topic about the game, we can do that. If you want to turn this personal, sorry but I'm not in.

My bad VA. I took it in that way. I'm sorry. And yes, a700 es mi compadre. Hehehe:lol:

1.- just because they come from the same team, makes them equal? I don't think so Pal. Correct me if I'm wrong but I have noticed that your arguments often rest on that you wouldn't bring a pitcher from other division to the AL East, but you let walk your ace in the pen and let somebody else unproved substitue him from other division? I don't get it. 2.- I said, if the deal is straight up, I'd do it, otherwise I would not. 3.- jacko already posted my concerns about Youk. IMO, Today, not career but today, Santana>Youk. Hell, I see a lot of red flags on Youk, seems like his career is not getting better but the opposite, but that's me.