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Because they are not civic? Haha

They frequently base their opinions not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased: an objective opinion. On the other hand you do not. Your love for Cherington do not let you see clearly.

I do not think Fred or A700 are pessimist. I think they are objective. I think everybody agree that we have one of the best O in baseball, but when it is about pitching, the opinions take several ways.

I meant and wonder what the FO would be willing to give for him... Or what the P would be asking in return if so

Wonder What would "they should be all over that" mean...

You should follow your own advise.

This year I think WSN, DET, LAD and STL have a legit shot. Any ALE team (aside TB), SDP and both CHI teams could turn in dark horses. I will be surprised if someone else win.

I do not think they are this unbalanced.

I think it is about the gap between O-P and then how this end up as a unit. Right now, the gap for us is abysmal. In other words, this team is very unbalanced.

yeah in 2013 the stars aligned, because the whole team overachieved the expected. Few teams have legit possibilities to win the WS, while other do not. Right now, Very few think that we have a legit possibility to win the WS... so if they win yeah! the stars would have aligned again haha which would be great. On the other hand, a team like WSN which is expected to win it all and if they end up winning the WS, I will not say that the stars aligned for them since it was expected from the begging. Comprende?

If NYY's ifs turn positive and our ifs turn positive as well (in other words, both strategies work out).. which team would you think have the edge moving forward?

Well, in that case I think we agree sk... I also think there are kook-aid drinkers out there.

oks Bell. haha

I'm not trying to apply logic or whatever... My point is pretty simple actually... IMO This pitching strategy is horrible, I already rest my case... and blame or glory FO will charge it, time will tell.

whoa whoa there. Spud said ¨No way in hell do I believe that Ben really is satisfied with the current rotation for all of 2015¨... then I said ¨Me neither and of course he will not accept it on public, but some here and there are drinking that kool aid.¨ again, not sure what you are disputing. the bold thing? As I said, I do believe that Cherries is not satisfied going forward like this either (notice that it is an opinion), On the other hand... does he think that this rotation as something that can be good enough to not kill this team while the starting pitching trade market opens itself up? he better, but IDK... but I think it must likely is a yes; reason why I think some here and there share that strategy or projection (... drinking that kool aid.). Again, not sure what you are disputing. On the other hand I do think that scenario (trade) is very unlikely, since IMO 1. it will be to late, 2. you will depend on what is available and what your are willing to give up and... 3. it hasn't happened at least in the last 20 Y since I assume it is because the last 2. But yeah, it could happen although very unlikely.

so they couldn't, what?

Yeah, but some think that this squad is good enough going forward since they think we could grab a pitcher in the trade deadline and/or promote a prospect.

Me neither and of course he will not accept it on public, but some here and there are drinking that kool aid.

Sorry Ted, my bad never happen again my friend. Shields wouldn't hurt anybody mostly at that price (75). At 85, still it would have been a bargain to me and likely would have made it done (... and just in case you would have wanted to incentive him). Nobody is saying, spend like drunken sailors like he is presenting. As usual he is taking things out of context. Anyways... problem is AND it has been mostly in recent years... they didn't spend wisely, again IMO; while they opened the wallet at O, the pitching is soooooo thin and full of ?s.... again. For nth time, I would have signed Lester and Shields even if that had meant not landing Panda and/or HR. In that scenario you would have had Vic/Nava/Castillo, Betts, Cespedes. XB, Peddy, Napoli/Craig, WM/Holt, Vazquez.. Still this O looks pretty strong to me. On the other hand the Rotation would have been Lester, Shields, Masterson, Kelly, Buch/Miley. Something like this was pretty affordable. IMO this looks more balanced. Sure It's about how you see your strategy and/or projections, but come on nobody is spending like drunken sailors in this scenario, nor putting in risk any future.

Weren't u all for Shields?

We'll never know, but time will tell if they took the best strategy with this squad.

I think most people agree that Shields would have made any team better, regardless any rationale thought or decision behind. It seemed like a lot of teams were interested, and all of them for sure have their GOOD/BAD rationale/projection behind, time will tell. In our case, he is 2 or 3 steps ahead of any of our arms.

haha It's oks Kim but hopefully it doesn't cause u a stomachache like it did to me last year.

My sister went to Wrigley a couple a years ago and she loved the environment and all, but when I asked her about the game, she asked me, what game? LOL! Seems like Wrigley is just a PR coliseum these days. Life is funny, She doesn't give a damn about baseball and somehow she's been in a couple of parks already, while me, finally next season will be my first time.

Cubs better post something around .500+ this year at least, otherwise a lot of question marks and pressure will be in effect.