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What is the job of a closer? Close games, no matter what. Career SV% is a solid stat in order to rate a closer.
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Clutch vs. choke - do these numbers mean anything?
iortiz replied to Bellhorn04's topic in Other Baseball
My definition of clutch/choke is based on large samples/fair samples in high leverage situations. As simple as that. In Kershaw's case, his career PO sample is a fair sample to determine whether he is clutch or not. In Barne's case there's no history of him at closing so it's hard to tell whether he has this skill. Time will tell. -
Clutch vs. choke - do these numbers mean anything?
iortiz replied to Bellhorn04's topic in Other Baseball
First off, his career fWAR before 2021 suggests he is nothing but a mediocre reliever based on fangraphs' rule-of-thumb charts. Normalize the chart for relievers and figure out. Regarding his clutch this year, as I said, the sample is so short to tell. I'm not saying it was fluke neither it is the real deal. We have to wait. This is his first year closing. -
He's been better in the last two months. It's a fact.
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Since Richards come back I thought he was the real deal, specially when he had that good stretch. Unfortunately he has been even worse all-in-all this year vs what his career numbers suggest. Regardless the leverage situation, he has sucked this year. He has settled down though lately in his new role. Leave him there.
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His career clutch stat is negative -2.6.
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I think it exists. If you can handle high leverage situations in a regular basis consistently, you have the profile to at least try. Sure Robles can go by committee and you can make a decent case, but IMO Whitlock has way better stuff and has hold games well in high leverage situations. As I said I won't be surprised if Robles is named the new closer and sticks there.
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He walks a lot of people and it gets worse in high leverage situations.
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It's different. We are talking about present vs past. Right now Matt Barnes is toasted.
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Balls. IMO Richards does not have the required balls (handle the pressure skill) to handle high leverage situations.
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IMO Richards does not have the profile to close games.
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One year is a very short sample in order to rate a reliever, but yeah, at this point we can expect anything.
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LOL! yeah. IMO Whitlock is the best option.
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Clutch vs. choke - do these numbers mean anything?
iortiz replied to Bellhorn04's topic in Other Baseball
Losing confidence is directly related to handling pressure. Maybe his skill/aptitude/virtue at handling pressure (which requires confidence), was not really a skill/aptitude/virtue but only a fluke. The sample is too short to tell. Matt Barnes was never demanded to close in a regular basis in his career. It's hard to say what we are going to get from him moving forward. Odds say he will regress to his career form at best but maybe in other role. His career numbers are not encouraging to close games. -
yup, it goes beyond of only "good stuff". Knowing Cora, I think Robles is the the next closer by committee until he shits the bed.
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Barnes' issues in the past was control and command. Those issues have come again lately and even worse. Not sure whether Barnes benefited from the spider tack thing early in the season and/or they just adjusted his mechanics, but right now Barnes is blocked mentally IMO. Will he bounce back and close to what he was early in the season? Very unlikely IMHO. Maybe to his career form but maybe not at closing. We'll see though.
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Clutch vs. choke - do these numbers mean anything?
iortiz replied to Bellhorn04's topic in Other Baseball
If Barnes does not close again because he he shits the bed again in a regular basis but does oks ,say, in a set up role, what will be the explanation? Handling the pressure. -
Naahhh pointing out the facts is not bashing. As I said, using ERA is a solid stat when you use it in career samples. Using ERA for short samples and even in year samples for relievers is terrible specially in order to predict future. I used as well career WAR, career run prevention stats, career peripherals, etc. He was mediocre at most of them based on fangraphs charts. You were the one who made a bizarre chart that doesn't make sense, not me. Also, in Barnes' case you can not use SV% ratios because he hasn't been a full-time closer. Common sense.
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Does "getting pitching good enough" apply? lol
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Wonder how many teams this year have been applying closer by committee? I also have been noticed that some teams like KC and TBR have been using "Closer by Situation" which is a different thing.
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Number 3 is blasphemy at talksox.com lol Barnes hasn't been a full-time closer; BUT it's still early to say he does not have mental skills to handle pressure. If he keeps s***ing the bed moving forward in the ninth, then he will likely never get the job as closer again, but could be oks as Set up or other role in the middle of the BP which is not minor thing either. As I said, handling the ninth consistently is not for everybody even if you have "good stuff".
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Why to give him 2-3 days off and the use him only in low leverage situations if pressure is not a skill? lol You are a mass of contradictions moon lol
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yup, some people want to see a circle as a square lol
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LOL I didn't bash Barnes. All his career stats, including ERA, are way far from his 2021 performance until August. That was all my point all along. He was a mediocre pitcher. This year (before August) he had been Koji 2.0.
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Barnes was an experiment at closing this year. He never was full-time closer. They gave him the job because we had no other option or at least a better option to start off. Probably Ottavino was going to be the next to be evaluated, IDK. He started very good and kept the job. He was so good that he was even extended. Said that Ottavino and Whitlock are the next best viable options at this point to continue the experiment. Honestly I don't know what to expect from Barnes moving forward, his good performance this year is a very short sample vs what his career numbers suggest.
