SoxFanForsyth

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2004/12/boston-red-sox.html THat's to the Sox page. You can search by teams on the left. Italian - I've looked at the picks that I sent to you, and they're all different on Cots and ESPN. I think we're going to run into a lot of variation.

Ok - so we're not counting bonuses as salary? That's fine, I'm just trying to get on the same page as everyone.

That's fine. I mean, I don't really care over 1% of the salary cap, but ESPN's numbers for 04-10 don't add up to the 100mm that he was guaranteed.

Per ESPN, Pujol's contract was 7 years/$87,832,041. So they're off by 13mm. That's so strange. They've amortized the last 4 years of his contract somehow, I'm not sure how.

I think that ESPN salary is wrong. Pujols had a 7 year/100mm contract, and the ESPN salary doesn't add up.

Thanks man. I think my first choice may be overlooked. I thought he made way more money than he does.

Well I'm going to send you my pick in case I'm not on here. I've got a full day of taking down Christmas lights and running errands. Ah the married life. I'll give 3 or 4 picks in order just in case.

I'm really surprised that it's 11 and it's not my turn yet. What's going on here? Do you people have lives or something?

Question - Is this a full season thing, where we keep up with it basically during the entire season? If so - are there free agent pick ups/player releases? And is there a waiver order for the pick ups?

Team: Explosive Renteria C: Buster Posey 1B: Adrian Gonzalez 2B: Dan Uggla 3B: Chipper Jones SS: Jimmy Rollins RF: Mike Stanton CF: Jacoby Ellsbury LF: Drew Stubbs DH: Dominic Brown Bench: Ian Stewart Bench: Travis Snider Bench: Garrett Jones Bench: Skip Schumaker Lineup (vs. Righties) 1. Ellsbury - CF 2. Jones - 3B 3. Posey - C 4. Gonzalez - 1B 5. Uggla - 2B 6. Stanton - RF 7. Brown - DH 8. Stubbs - LF 9. Rollins - SS Lineup (vs. Lefties) 1. Rollins - SS 2. Jones - 3B 3. Posey - C 4. Gonzalez - 1B 5. Uggla - 2B 6. Stanton - RF 7. Stubbs - LF 8. Brown - DH 9. Ellsbury - CF Rotation SP Josh Beckett SP CJ Wilson SP Ryan Dempster SP Jeremy Hellickson SP Jair Jurrjens Bullpen CL Mariano Rivera SU Craig Kimbrel MR Alexi Ogando MR Joel Zumaya MR Santiago Casilla LR Dan Runzler LR Mike Leake

Ok just wanted to make sure. Sounds good. Merry Christmas, by the way. Hope you fellas got everything you wanted.

Oh - and go ahead and name my team "Explosive Renteria"

Is this a snake draft? Or are we just going 1-16, 1-16, 1-16?

Yeah. That 3 set series is actually really good. As for his breakfast. I already told you. He eats fastballs for breakfast. Every. Single. Morning.

Actually really think about it. Lowrie had wrist problems that held him out in 2009. In 2010, his wrist was completely healed, and the only reason that he missed any playing time at all in 2010 was because of mono. Now if you want to call Lowrie injury prone because he got mono, then we need to stop here because that's just where we disagree. Anyone can get mono. I got mono 5 years ago, and I can promise you that after a year of recovery, it has no ill effects. Youkilis missed 1/2 of the season last year with a torn tendon in his right hand. It was an injury that is extremely rare in the sports industry, so if you ask me, the recovery from that seems much more questionable than the recovery from a 2 year old wrist injury + mono. Not picking sides here, but I think it's pretty valid to have just as much concern about Youk as it is about Lowrie for the upcoming season, purely based on how recent and serious each players injuries were. Having said that - I don't think Youk will have any problems at all transitioning back over to 3rd base. Like you said, he's a 3rd baseman turned to a 1st baseman, not the opposite. He's going back to his natural position, so I have no worries about that.

Look. Youk has logged 1,606 innings over at 3B and has a career 6.9 UZR/150. Compared to the rest of the league from 04-10, that puts him at 8th in the league defensively. We know he's an elite offensive 3rd baseman, and historically he has been near elite defensively at 3rd base. To me, 1600+ innings is more than ample enough of a sample size to draw conclusions, so I would say it is fair to say that he will stay around there.

The question he was answering was "Other than Longo, can anyone else claim these stats...blah blah blah" so that's why he left off Longo. Youk needs time to lick his wounds a few games a year, but he can still DH while he does it. We'll face CC, Price, Wilson and plenty of other strong LHP plenty of times this year, and thats where Youk should DH, Lowrie to 3B, Papi on the bench as a PH. As good as Ortiz is, Lowrie is better vs strong LHP.

I'll give you Zimmerman, especially if he was on a team that scored a few more runs. A-Rod used to be that kind of a threat. Now he's a .275-.285 hitter. I'll give you the 25+ HR and 100+ RBI's, but he's not a .300+ hitter anymore.

By the way - from 2008-2010, Youks 162 game average has been .308/.404/.560/.964 with 45 doubles, 32 HR, 115 RBI's. If he can't put in 155 games at 3rd, he needs to DH on his days off, and his days off need to be against tough lefties and put Lowrie at 3rd.

Are you guys arguing about a player being "above average" vs "great" or "elite"? No sense in arguing. Youk will be a 25-30 HR/ 95-105 RBI/.300-.310 hitter. Other than Longoria, is there a 3rd baseman in the MLB right now who can hit over .305+, drive in over 95 a year, and hit 25-30 HR? Given, Beltre did that last year, but look at how that year was viewed. A "monster" year for him. Other than Beltre's .328 BA, his stats are comparable to what Youk puts up annually. Beltre's were marginally better.

Fair enough. I disagree, I think the deal is done in theory and the only thing left to do is sign the papers when we don't have to drop extra money for CBT purposes. I have more faith in Theo than to send Kelly, Rizzo, and Fuentes over to SD for 1 year of Gonzo + negotiating rights. Theo has to know exactly what Gonzo wants, and has to be comfortable enough with the money that he knows it's all just paperwork at this point.

Sounds to me like he's stating the obvious. What else would Gonzo do if a deal doesn't get done? Retire?