Palodios
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Dipre, what some of us disagree with you about is why you keep assuming the Sox will need a closer in 2012. I'd trust Jenks/Bard before Papelbon. As I mentioned before, if Papelbon has a good season, he'll price himself out. If he has a bad season, he's not a closer anymore, atleast not here. I just don't see any scenario where he comes back, unless he does so poorly in 2011, its with a minor league contract.
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15.5 for Fielder, 12 million for Papelbon.... hmm.
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Didn't this happen to Varitek two or three years ago? Whether he deserved it or not is debatable, but he ended up losing money because he thought his intangibles were worth more, but all the teams were afraid of the Type A, and had no interest because they blatantly assumed he was going back to Boston.
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Papelbon has emphasized that he wants top dollar, and the Sox usually want top value. These are the possible scenarios I would predict. If Papelbon has a Rivera year, he's back with the Sox on a big contract, unless maybe the Yankees want an elite reliever for the 7th inning. If Papelbon has a decent 2011, he will get a 3 year deal because of his past performance, and I don't see the Sox taking that risk with Bard as a cheap and viable replacement. They also know a lot more about his health problems than other teams might. If Papelbon has a crummy 2011, the Sox will have already overpaid for him in 2011, and won't offer him arbitration. He'll want to close, and the Sox won't let him blow another ten saves in 2012. He'll be best suited to try to have a recovery year somewhere like Washington or Pittsburgh to re-build his value outside of the AL East.
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In all fairness, I've made it no secret that while I don't think Pap is worth 12 million, I do believe a change in pitching coach will go a long way for him.
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Curt Young AND Dice-k in the same article, talking about changing training regiments? Yeah, I sort of soiled myself on that one.
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An interesting choice by the Yankees, and by Soriano. I knew they were going to do SOMETHING this offseason, and I definitely knew they were bound to do something with that extra 25 million too.
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I think Lebron needs some new friends. Seriously, they're f***ing losers, whoever they are. It seems like they're completely ruined his reputation with all this garbage.
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BigPapi, We're not talking about signing a closer. We're talking about looking at how a closer did throughout his career. Dipre, I wasn't suggesting that bad peripheral elite closers are common, or even that they exist at all.
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So you're saying that you'd rather a closer with a pile of great peripherals to a closer who actually got his job done? That's silly.
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Wins rely on run production,relief pitching, and the opposing starter. Saves do not. That comparison is not even close.
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When it comes to guys who've been closers their entire career, there are only three stats that means anything. Saves, blown saves, and the save percentage that those two create. WHIP, ERA, FIP, whatever you want to look at... they are completely irrelevant. A closer's goal is to come into the game and survive the inning. He can let as many guys on base or to home plate as he wants, as long as they come away with a W. 89% is about as good as you're going to get.
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I think Beckett is a serious outlier from that list. Once he came back from the injury he had a 4.93 ERA, with some really good starts in there. Its not like he had a completely worthless season, he started out injured, and then they brought him back early because they wanted to salvage the season from Wakefield's starts. His peripherals weren't pretty, but it happens when injuries are involved. I'm going to repeat my mantra for the season, and say that losing Farrell will go a longggg way towards fixing pitching strategies and technique, especially since it looks like his stuff is still there.
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They have an option for 2012, don't they?
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I wouldn't be surprised if he simply renegotiates with the yankees prior to opting up. If he wants more money, we all know who is going to give it to him.
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That's the point-- just because Hoffman is no Mariano doesn't make him out of the question.
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Holding a record in a major category definitely qualifies. There is a very good chance there will never EVER be another Rivera, so why penalize him? That's like saying Randy Johnson doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame because Roger Clemmons has two more Cy Youngs, its just silly.
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Are the Sox the most popular team in Boston?
Palodios replied to Badbird's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I guess you don't remember 1990. -
Are the Sox the most popular team in Boston?
Palodios replied to Badbird's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Dojji-- that just means the Sox are more popular, but the Pats have more dedicated fans. -
Are the Sox the most popular team in Boston?
Palodios replied to Badbird's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
The simple fact is... there are a lot more pink hat Red Sox fans than baby blue hat Patriot fans. Red Sox have the quantity, but the Patriots fans are more dedicated. Most of "Red Sox fans" I know didn't watch more than five games all last season. Most Patriot fans I know didn't miss five games all season. -
Are the Sox the most popular team in Boston?
Palodios replied to Badbird's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
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Lowlife rat? Quite frankly, he's been one of the most graceful steroid users. If anyone is a lowlife rat, that would be Roger.
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I think that is debatable. Plus Garza has 3 years left, versus Agon's 1.
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They'll figure something out. Will Fuentes take a pay cut to close for them? He's desperate to close, and they must have cut some serious cash from their pen this season by now.
