Imperial59
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You know all that's gonna happen is that a certain someone's going to skim a couple lines and then come back with some line about how we're glossing over how durable and effective he is, right?
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I think you guys are undervaluing Beltre. He's currently the best defensive third baseman in baseball with UZR/150 ratings of 21.0 and 15.7 the last couple years. And although he had a down year last year, he was hurt and those statistics are a major outlier. The three years prior, he averaged a WAR of 3.9. The three prior years he's hit 25+ home runs in the pitcher's haven of Safeco and he's been good for an OPS of about .800. Not exactly spectacular, but I'm interested to see how he'll do outside of Safeco. In 2008, he hit .292/.342/.512 outside of Safeco and in 2007 he hit .288/.320/.538 outside of Safeco.
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Vazquez' low FIP could easily be explained by the formula overvaluing strikeouts. There's almost a 0.40 point differential in his career ERA and his career FIP, so clearly FIP isn't the most accurate assessment of his ability. That's all you needed to say
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That's not how the luxury tax works Jackson. The Red Sox would be paying 17.5% of the amount of money that they go over the luxury tax, because they haven't gone over the luxury tax in a while. The Yankees only pay 40% on the amount of money that they go over the luxury tax because they've been over the luxury tax every single year, and if you're over the luxury tax threshold 3 years in a row, you pay the maximum 40% penalty. So if the Sox are over the luxury tax by 5 million in 2010, they'd pay an adittional $875,000, not the $5 million figure you just made up. Not nearly as big a deal as you're making it out to be. And they're shedding over $50 million in salary after this year, so they could easily go back under the luxury tax threshold.
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I'm sure most of you will have some strong opinions on Beltre, but I've yet to see any thread on him. The Red Sox are still rumored to be in talks with Beltre. http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/mlb/news/story?id=4779997&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines They would likely be able to sign him, even if they can't trade Lowell first. They deal they had in place that would have sent Lowell to the Rangers only saved us about $3 million next year. Lowell should be healthy in plenty of time for Spring Training, we could always trade him then to cut salary.
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Gloss over? I've provided every stat I can think of to show how he's been no more effective than a league average starter in the AL. Sure, he'll give you 200 innings. But wouldn't you rather have the bullpen in there if he's going to be giving up more than a run every other inning on average as he has in the American League over his career?
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Does he ever read what we say before he indulges in his verbal handjobs for the Yankees?
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Do you think he's comparable to Halladay?
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Can you offer any logical argument why Vazquez, who has underperformed his FIP by 0.36 points over his almost 2,500 major league innings will perform up to his FIP next year? He'll be pitching for a team that had a -4.9 UZR/150 and a -18.5 UZR last year and he'll be pitching in the most friendly home run hitting park in the majors as a pitcher as a guy who's given up 1.2 HR/9 in his career.
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He's posted a WAR of 5 once in 4 years in the American League. But keep on pickin those cherries.
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He's given an above average performance in the AL once in four seasons.
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Can you guys both please cut it out? Just let the mods handle this troll.
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Can you name a single year in which Vazquez had a FIP in the mid-3 range in the American League?
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Thank you for being reasonable.
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Well aren't injury histories and ages pertinent when someone is claiming that 4 of their starters are a "lock" for 30+ starts and 200 innings?