Imperial59
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No, but the difference isn't as much as you're probably assuming. Cameron has significantly outperformed Bay in WAR over the last two years. If you take into account that he's getting a bonus from his position, and subtract that bonus (plus take into account Bay's positional adjustment), Cameron is only a few runs worse overall. The difference in their defensive abilities is quite large. It's not nearly the dropoff the Yankees are seeing in left field going from Damon to Gardner/Nady/etc.
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Bay will certainly help their offense. I liked him in Boston but his approach at the plate which culminated in so many strikeouts and his poor defense were starting to bother me. You'd think a .900+ OPS would have helped carry the offense, but in my opinion he was a large reason why the Sox offense was so up and down last year. He'd hit .324/.490/.634 one month and then .192/.394/.295 another month. And it didn't help that his best month was April and it was all downhill from there. It was pretty telling when the Sox moved him out of the heart of the order even though he had the second best OPS on the team.
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Now Vazquez is a lock to have an ERA under 4.50? He's pitched in the AL four years and he's had an ERA over 4.65 in three of them. What's next, you're going to claim the sky's yellow?
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No less a likelihood for injury than Burnett, Chamberlain or Hughes, given their extensive injury histories.
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I think most teams would rather have a guy who's proven to be a league average or better starting pitcher competing with a young guy with potential then have two guys who have to this point proven incapable of being league average starters competing for a job as a starter.
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This is about as true as you claiming that Burnett's injuries were all related to his elbow. Chamberlain's first half peripherals were actually worse than his second half ones. He pitched poorly even when he wasn't tired, his ERA just didn't catch up until the second half.
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There are a variety of issues that moving Hughes to the rotation would create, that moving Wakefield to the rotation would not create. 1. You're losing your only reliable set up guy (assuming he repeats his success last year and stays healthy which he hasn't done very well over his career so far). 2. He's never pitched more than 86 innings in a season. If he was to start, he'd probably be on an innings limit around 115 for the entire season.
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If they'd rather stretch out Hughes and take him out of the bullpen than use Mitre as a member of the rotation, then why didn't they do it last year? Fact is, you can't just take Hughes out of the bullpen and pluck him right into the rotation when a pitcher goes down. You have to stretch him out first and then hope he does better than his 5+ ERA, 1.40+ WHIP performance as a starter so far.
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By the way, if you look at Vazquez' numbers from age 24 on, his AL/NL splits are as follows: NL: 3.57 ERA, 1.162 WHIP, 8.5 H/9, 1.1 HR/9, 1.9 BB/9, 8.5 SO/9, 4.4 SO/BB AL: 4.52 ERA, 1.258 WHIP, 8.9 H/9, 1.2 HR/9, 2.5 BB/9, 8.1 SO/9, 3.29 SO/BB I'd say that shows a major difference in his ability to pitch in the NL vs. his ability to pitch in the AL. It's not really fair to compare his AL/NL stats when his NL stats include him pitching at ages 21, 22 and 23 and his AL stats all include years in which he was in his prime (age 27, 29, 30 and 31).
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I could spend an entire day calling out Jacko on his inconsistencies in his arguments, but I prefer to beat him on his own terms because it's slightly more challenging and much more fulfilling to prove him wrong on his own terms.
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I didn't state either pitcher's ERA in any recent posts. Perhaps you could benefit from some reading comprehension? Wakefield's a knuckleball pitcher so ERA+ is arguably the most accurate stat you could use to assess his value. He doesn't fit the mold of tRA, FIP or WAR.
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For the record, Tim Wakefield has a better ERA+ in the American League than Javier Vazquez, and he's our #6 starter. I'm sure Jacko will claim that Wake's peripherals aren't as good as Vazquez, but even the best knuckleball pitchers don't' have good peripherals so that doesn't really mean anything.
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I bet those would be a lot different if you took out his first 2 years with Montreal when he was horrible.
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Sorry, lol You do know he'll just move on to another claim now that he was proven wrong about this one though, right? Maybe he'll claim Jesus Montero is better than Victor Martinez using a minor league WAR calculation that he made up. Maybe he'll claim that Chamberlain is better than Lackey because of his stuff. That's the fun of this site. You never know what Jackson will come up with next lol
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2000 - Torn thumb ligament 2001 - Stress fracture in right foot 2002 - Bone bruise 2007 - Shoulder strain There goes that excuse... lol
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