I've stated why he's not in the HOF. I agree with the voters who have kept him out. I did see him pitch and believe it or not I've read several baseball books written about that era. So I'm pretty sure of the assertions I've made. Nevertheless, since often these debates are endless and turn into pissing contests, it's probably time to end it here and agree to disagree.
I apologize if I've insulted anyone here. It was not intentional. You three are three of my favorite posters on this site.